[540iSUP]

Originally Posted by WretchedRefuse

I spent some time yesterday building a map of every tunable parameter on the "Popular" and "Standard" menus. I'd post it here but it's five pages long. Then I updated to the beta version and found that I need to make some changes to the list. Ideally I'd like to post the list in a common area somewhere where we can share our notes about which items work, which don't, any comments, prerequisites, etc. Is there a place on this forum where we can collectively maintain that?

I'm still collecting my initial impressions of the software. I like the English translations of many of the parameters, however specific parameters can be hard to find in Expert Mode since the seem to be grouped together behind the menu items. It also looks like there are lots of items that don't work for my particular car (e.g. speedometer correction, Comfort mode sailing.)

This would be super helpful. I have both Bimmercode and Protool and I find Protool to be able to get into things that Bimmercode can't. The problem I'm having is it's not as straight forward as Bimmercode.

[WretchedRefuse]

Originally Posted by 540iSUP

This would be super helpful. I have both Bimmercode and Protool and I find Protool to be able to get into things that Bimmercode can't. The problem I'm having is it's not as straight forward as Bimmercode.

I'm still new to ProTool but I'm inclined to agree with that comment. However, after mapping out all of ProTool's parameters I found that there are some items exclusive to Bimmercode; e.g. B&W surround options for HK audio, interior motion detection alarm, and default driving mode.

Depending on how far we could develop the concept, maybe it would be better to map out both Bimmercode and ProTools to help guide which tool is best suited to a particular need. Maybe some sort of a community-maintained Wiki would be best. I'm pretty new here; does the Forum support such a thing?

[ezaircon4jc]

Originally Posted by WretchedRefuse

I'm still new to ProTool but I'm inclined to agree with that comment. However, after mapping out all of ProTool's parameters I found that there are some items exclusive to Bimmercode; e.g. B&W surround options for HK audio, interior motion detection alarm, and default driving mode.

Depending on how far we could develop the concept, maybe it would be better to map out both Bimmercode and ProTools to help guide which tool is best suited to a particular need. Maybe some sort of a community-maintained Wiki would be best. I'm pretty new here; does the Forum support such a thing?

It would be nice to have a list of coding options and what modules to code.

[540iSUP]

Originally Posted by WretchedRefuse

I'm still new to ProTool but I'm inclined to agree with that comment. However, after mapping out all of ProTool's parameters I found that there are some items exclusive to Bimmercode; e.g. B&W surround options for HK audio, interior motion detection alarm, and default driving mode.

Depending on how far we could develop the concept, maybe it would be better to map out both Bimmercode and ProTools to help guide which tool is best suited to a particular need. Maybe some sort of a community-maintained Wiki would be best. I'm pretty new here; does the Forum support such a thing?

I noticed you have an LCI. There are differences with what can be coded between LCI and Pre-LCI as well.

[WretchedRefuse]

Originally Posted by 540iSUP

I noticed you have an LCI. There are differences with what can be coded between LCI and Pre-LCI as well.

Good point; actually I have a 2020 with is an "LCI Lite." There are actually three variants of the G30.

[WretchedRefuse]

Originally Posted by 540iSUP

I noticed you have an LCI. There are differences with what can be coded between LCI and Pre-LCI as well.

This question got me to thinking:
1. Do the various ECUs have the same coding parameters regardless of which vehicle they are installed in? For example, if the X3 uses the same HU_MGU module as the G30, do we have the same coding options for both?
2. Based on the answer above, do the user-friendly coding tools (Bimmercode, ProTool) use the current vehicle series, model, or VIN to filter the coding options available?

[Joe-BMW33]

Originally Posted by WretchedRefuse

This question got me to thinking:
1. Do the various ECUs have the same coding parameters regardless of which vehicle they are installed in? For example, if the X3 uses the same HU_MGU module as the G30, do we have the same coding options for both?
2. Based on the answer above, do the user-friendly coding tools (Bimmercode, ProTool) use the current vehicle series, model, or VIN to filter the coding options available?

This is a perfect question for the folks at Bimmergeeks. I'm sure you will get a comprehensive answer.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/Bimm...ool/?ref=share

[WretchedRefuse]

Here's what I was thinking of pulling together. This example is for the DKOMBI4 instrument cluster. The sheet indicates whether the option is available as a shortcut in BC, as a "Popular" or "Standard" option in PT, if there's a cheat available in E-Sys, and any comments that people may have. We'd need to find a shared location to store this where it could be maintained by the community.

[WretchedRefuse]

OK, I finished my pass through the various ECUs and I've attached my findings for Bimmercode, ProTool, and E-Sys. I can only post this as a PDF here so until we find a place to share an Excel I'll just maintain my own copy.

To summarize, I went through the various ECUs in my G30 (2020 M550i) to identify coding options available in BimmerCode, ProTool, and E-Sys Cheats. This guide might help a prospective buyer decide which tool is best for them. In summary, ProTools clearly offers the most coding options but some are only available in BimmerCode. E-Sys has only a limited number of cheats available, although I excluded several that are not in English.

[ezaircon4jc]

Originally Posted by WretchedRefuse

OK, I finished my pass through the various ECUs and I've attached my findings for Bimmercode, ProTool, and E-Sys. I can only post this as a PDF here so until we find a place to share an Excel I'll just maintain my own copy.

To summarize, I went through the various ECUs in my G30 (2020 M550i) to identify coding options available in BimmerCode, ProTool, and E-Sys Cheats. This guide might help a prospective buyer decide which tool is best for them. In summary, ProTools clearly offers the most coding options but some are only available in BimmerCode. E-Sys has only a limited number of cheats available, although I excluded several that are not in English.

THANK YOU! Now, all we need is the actual coding.

[Joe-BMW33]

Originally Posted by WretchedRefuse

OK, I finished my pass through the various ECUs and I've attached my findings for Bimmercode, ProTool, and E-Sys. I can only post this as a PDF here so until we find a place to share an Excel I'll just maintain my own copy.

To summarize, I went through the various ECUs in my G30 (2020 M550i) to identify coding options available in BimmerCode, ProTool, and E-Sys Cheats. This guide might help a prospective buyer decide which tool is best for them. In summary, ProTools clearly offers the most coding options but some are only available in BimmerCode. E-Sys has only a limited number of cheats available, although I excluded several that are not in English.

This is awesome, great work and thanks for putting it together. i have been using PT 100% of the time, but I think I will fire up BC this weekend to check things out. I'm curious to see how fast BC is with the MHD-Black adapter I bought specifically for PT (with an Android Tablet).

[WretchedRefuse]

Originally Posted by Joe-BMW33

... I'm curious to see how fast BC is with the MHD-Black adapter I bought specifically for PT (with an Android Tablet).

I've found that BC is WAY faster with the Enet cable than with my Bluetooth adapter. Let me know what you find.

[Joe-BMW33]

Originally Posted by WretchedRefuse

I've found that BC is WAY faster with the Enet cable than with my Bluetooth adapter. Let me know what you find.

The MHD Black adapter is a Wifi adapter. It's been super fast with ProTool. Wifi is just a much faster protocol than BT. This adapter is only a couple of bucks more than the ODBLink CX I was using. An added plus is that the MHD Black has an Ethernet port if you want to use if for a direct connection.

https://www.bimecu.com/product-page/...for-f-g-series

[mobilegun]

Originally Posted by WretchedRefuse

OK, I finished my pass through the various ECUs and I've attached my findings for Bimmercode, ProTool, and E-Sys. I can only post this as a PDF here so until we find a place to share an Excel I'll just maintain my own copy.

To summarize, I went through the various ECUs in my G30 (2020 M550i) to identify coding options available in BimmerCode, ProTool, and E-Sys Cheats. This guide might help a prospective buyer decide which tool is best for them. In summary, ProTools clearly offers the most coding options but some are only available in BimmerCode. E-Sys has only a limited number of cheats available, although I excluded several that are not in English.

Is this comparison sheet being updated/maintained? Trying to figure out which of the 2 is the better direction to go in. The general sense is that protools allows for more, but bimmercode is easier, BUT bimmercode has some options that protools doesn't (like seatbelt warning nag).

Curious on what those of you that have both think/prefer now in 2024. (especially for an LCI M550)

[WretchedRefuse]

Originally Posted by mobilegun

Is this comparison sheet being updated/maintained? Trying to figure out which of the 2 is the better direction to go in. The general sense is that protools allows for more, but bimmercode is easier, BUT bimmercode has some options that protools doesn't (like seatbelt warning nag).

Curious on what those of you that have both think/prefer now in 2024. (especially for an LCI M550)

I haven't significantly updated that sheet since putting it together, largely because I haven't done a lot of coding recently. Both BC and PT occasionally make changes/improvements to their products so my comparison is pretty outdated by now. I'd still agree with your assessment that overall, BC is easier to use and PT is more comprehensive, but BC still has a few things that PT doesn't.

[mobilegun]

Originally Posted by WretchedRefuse

I haven't significantly updated that sheet since putting it together, largely because I haven't done a lot of coding recently. Both BC and PT occasionally make changes/improvements to their products so my comparison is pretty outdated by now. I'd still agree with your assessment that overall, BC is easier to use and PT is more comprehensive, but BC still has a few things that PT doesn't.

Thanks. If you had to pick one which would you pick? Trying not to grab both but not sure what BC has that PT can't do except the seat belt bag (which seems like you can turn down the volume on anyways)?

[darkrom]

I love protool. I had to use that to code the VO on my 135 to get a 4 series sport seat to play nice. It seems like it can do anything if you will use “expert mode” but for most things that’s not needed at all.

[lnxguy]

BimmerUtility for this guy.

[Sam_M550i]

Is there a cheat sheet for where to find items quickly to code? I'm BC I can easily find default drive mode and say 200 mph cluster. I spent time on protool and struggled to find these parameters. Also struggling to find bulb check warning settings. Any help would be great. I guess I am just not easily finding parameters I usually find quickly when I use BC.

[Joe-BMW33]

Originally Posted by Sam_M550i

Is there a cheat sheet for where to find items quickly to code? I'm BC I can easily find default drive mode and say 200 mph cluster. I spent time on protool and struggled to find these parameters. Also struggling to find bulb check warning settings. Any help would be great. I guess I am just not easily finding parameters I usually find quickly when I use BC.

Hey Sam, it has been a while since I fired it up (which means all has been good for a long time), but there is a Protool version of simple mode and then there are two different levels of expert. Their simple may be called "Standard" or something. This is where the custom ambient light menu is, for reference, that makes it simple to code that.

When I first got it and fired it up, I had some issues coding and they told me to run the beta. On you Android device, in the google play store, click off allow betas next to it.

It definitely takes some getting used to. It is powerful for power users, but I have found myself using both BC and PT at times. BC is definitely more straight forward.

[Sam_M550i]

Figured I'd be able to do everything BC can do and quickly find items. I gave up and used BC for 200mph speedo and changing default drive modes. Was going to use PT for ambient light but error reading BDC currently.

[WretchedRefuse]

Sam_M550i You can use BC for ambient light, but you need to use Expert Mode and calculate the hex values for each color that you want. There are other threads here that explain how to do it. I actually did it that way myself before ProTool came out with their better way.