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      03-15-2017, 12:31 PM   #23
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Deal killers for $80k:

*No nappa dash option (I'd gladly pay for it!)
*Half-digital cluster is so naaaaasty
*4-Zone climate (Again, I'd pay for it)
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It is terrible, and also the sensatec dash is awful as well. I'd rather just have the plastic dash then the fake cheap looking leather. The rest of the car I like.

sensatec dash is horrible? based on first hand viewing? is this different than the standard dash on the X6? I personally really like that dash (as a no cost standard item) it blows away the old plastic look. textured and stitched plastic but the X6 was a little padded and looks good.
I agree. The sensatec dash on my x6 looks pretty good. I wouldn't pay extra for it, but as a standard item it is fine. Also, it will hold up to heat and sunlight better than the leather dash for those who tend to buy and hold.
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Deal killers for $80k:

*No nappa dash option (I'd gladly pay for it!)
*Half-digital cluster is so naaaaasty
*4-Zone climate (Again, I'd pay for it)
I guess I am in the minority....I prefer analog clusters to digital and I like the design of this cluster versus the fully digital cluster in my x6.
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      03-15-2017, 12:52 PM   #26
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It would be nice to see black rims as an option. Or maybe they'll be available later in the year?
Rumors are later in the year, July is rumored to bring SOP of different rim options
The important question, to me, is when does the G90 M5 go into production? That is what I am waiting for.....
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4 zone climate is probably standard. everyone can stop freaking out. not sure why nappa dash isn't an option when you can get it on the f10.
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Curious why does everyone want/need 4 zone climate? Hell I don't even care about 2-zone climate.
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Give us a 5-series size car which is all-electric. It's hard to justify spending this kind of money these days on an internal combustion engine car when you can get a Tesla Model S 60D or 75D for similar money. Carpool lane driving, no emissions, quiet, luxurious enough and fun to drive, no visits to the gas station, easier to repair, etc.

The M550i is an evolutionary tweak on obsolete technology. The established car manufacturers should have been a lot more aggressive about electric. It's amazing that Tesla had such a huge head start on them.
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Very interested in this car, but I wouldn't buy solely on the half-assed instrument cluster
What's wrong with it?
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I guess I am in the minority....I prefer analog clusters to digital and I like the design of this cluster versus the fully digital cluster in my x6.
But the cluster is digital right? The only thing not digital is the bordering around where the revs and speedo are displayed.
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I guess I am in the minority....I prefer analog clusters to digital and I like the design of this cluster versus the fully digital cluster in my x6.
But the cluster is digital right? The only thing not digital is the bordering around where the revs and speedo are displayed.
I think so. I am going on pics. I have not seen the G30 in person yet.
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      03-15-2017, 02:15 PM   #33
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I think so. I am going on pics. I have not seen the G30 in person yet.
I just saw the other thread. I think in the USA they don't get full digital for some bizarre reason. Real shame...
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      03-15-2017, 02:40 PM   #34
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4 zone climate is probably standard. everyone can stop freaking out. not sure why nappa dash isn't an option when you can get it on the f10.
4 zone is standard in Germany, so I assume it's standard everywhere.
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Curious why does everyone want/need 4 zone climate? Hell I don't even care about 2-zone climate.
Much nicer display and touch buttons in the front with the 4 zone.
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      03-15-2017, 03:17 PM   #36
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4 zone is standard in Germany, so I assume it's standard everywhere.
Not in uk.
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      03-15-2017, 03:19 PM   #37
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Not in uk.
I was talking about the M550i.
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      03-15-2017, 03:53 PM   #38
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I was talking about the M550i.
I duly retract my statement then.
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      03-15-2017, 04:39 PM   #39
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4-zone hvac is not available in the US, either standard or as an option. Can't figure out why.

Like the later years of the F10, the leather dash will be available with the addition of the Individual merino leather interiors. As other have said, hopefully that'll be later in the year.

I'm not sure why everyone is so upset about the lack of BMW's fully digital dash. Its design is waaaay behind Audi, Merc, Jag and Porsche which allow real user customization. BMW's digital dash pretty much just changes colors and graphics depending on the drive mode. For a car company with the best overall tech (by far), BMW's digital dash is just a gimmick imo.
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...For a car company with the best overall tech (by far), BMW's digital dash is just a gimmick imo.
Might be close to the mark there. Gesture control can be added to that boat too I think.
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What a limited color palette
Agreed. Carbon and Bluestone look good though. I'd love to see this in Frozen Dk Grey or whatever that M760 launch color was.
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Give us a 5-series size car which is all-electric. It's hard to justify spending this kind of money these days on an internal combustion engine car when you can get a Tesla Model S 60D or 75D for similar money. Carpool lane driving, no emissions, quiet, luxurious enough and fun to drive, no visits to the gas station, easier to repair, etc.

The M550i is an evolutionary tweak on obsolete technology. The established car manufacturers should have been a lot more aggressive about electric. It's amazing that Tesla had such a huge head start on them.
Take it from someone who used to sell Teslas during college; the Model S is overrated. The fit and finish was crap, interior was crap, and it wasn't fun to drive in anything but a straight line. Even at that, it was boring to just step on the pedal without the ability to shift your own gears or hear the rumble of an engine.

Go ahead and get a Model S as your next car if that floats your boat; overall it is a great car with very impressive technology. Tesla is constantly updating its software which makes all other manufacturers look like dinosaurs in comparison. But there's a reason why the majority of Model S owners are nerdy techies instead of true automotive enthusiasts: it's just not a driver's car. I live in an area where there are a ton of them roaming around, and only once have I ever seen one driven in a spirited manner. The people who own them don't care about driving.

Beyond the electric powertrain, Tesla's fundamental goal as a company is to eliminate the need for human control of a vehicle entirely. That doesn't sit well with real car enthusiasts such as myself, who much prefer having their hands on the wheel, rowing through the gears, and feeling the road.

BMW's claim to fame is "sheer driving pleasure." That means the brand fundamentally (unlike Tesla) focuses on things like chassis response, handling, and having world-class engines (especially their straight 6s). Turning the 5-series into an electric car would be blasphemous to the brand's heritage.

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4 zone climate is probably standard. everyone can stop freaking out. not sure why nappa dash isn't an option when you can get it on the f10.
4NB (4-Zone) is not standard in the US. It is in Canada but not here.

I special ordered it on the F10 and along with the extra controls for the rear seat, you also get additional rear vents on the B-Pillar which is a nice touch.
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