07-21-2014, 06:49 PM | #23 |
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This is a self fulfilling prophecy that makse no sense to me. While BMW NA insists there is "no market" for upscale German wagons, MB sells all the E350 and E63AMG wagons they can. Where I live, E63 Estates are parked all over the place like common Camrys. If BMW NA doesn't bring the G31 to the States, of course no one will buy it. They cant! The US can only take so many SUV's and SAV's and GT's (omg).
I thought there was hope for BMW NA when the brought the F31 to the States. Then they ruined it by only offering XDrive automatic 328's. At least we got a diesel. |
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07-21-2014, 07:48 PM | #24 |
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I hope they bring that performance steering wheel to the production model!
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07-21-2014, 07:56 PM | #26 |
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So we should expect the G30 M5 variant around 2019...
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07-22-2014, 12:06 AM | #27 |
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The F10 sold so much better than the E6*.
So expect a subtle design without to much fuzz. The G3* will be a great car, as previous 5 have been, can't wait to see it. And as for the engines goes, i'll take a I3 petrol please, the sound of the I8 was really impressive. As for release, expect the G30 in 2017, and the G31 in 2018, BMW usually maintain a 7 year lifespan.
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the instrument cluster just simply looks hideous like the base F30 and F20 models, with that pathetic little OB computer. Mercs and Audis have fantastic dash and big color displays in their instrument cluster even in small cars, why cant BMW do that? It just makes the interior look cheap.
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07-22-2014, 06:57 AM | #29 |
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If they keep the same size - no usual 10cm growth between gen's - loose 150kg - 200kg (75 in the front axle) (but actually loosing the weight not saying that "compared to the previous gen with similar equip" but when it's on the scales it weight the same if not more)) improve the eps up to porsche standarts then the next M5 is going to be my next conti crusher. Somehow I think there is a better chance an honest politician beeing born than of that happening right scott?
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07-22-2014, 08:08 AM | #30 |
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If the rendering of the front in that magazine is very close to the actual design as per Scott, then all I can say is it is ugly and bland. No aesthetics, but simple copy-paste, and if you want a better looking bumper, you have to opt for M-Sport, which may only make it look marginally better. Headlights joining the grill, pop up iDrive screen...sigh.
I have an E39 M5 and that car is a beauty that has aged so well. The current generation 5 series (pre-LCI) is also very nice but not as fun to drive for me, though I can't compare new plain vanilla 528xi with my old M5. The front bumper cut outs in this rendering reminds me of the 2015 Hyundai Sonata or the 2015 Acura TLX bumper. Sorry, but Mercedes has beaten you guys in the design department (except for some of their cars like the C, GLA and CLA interiors). I'll wait to see what the new E Class is going to be like. And no wagon for US is sad. Sure, just get us the GT - that sells great here, no? |
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07-22-2014, 12:14 PM | #32 |
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GUYS! The instrument cluster you see in the pics is definitely not going to be the one on the final product, they must just be using an F30 cluster for the test mule since it must be all compatible with the components of the car. Do you really think they BMW is stupid enough to do that after releasing a 100% digital cluster.
On another note, I really think that BMW will have a tough time out designing the F10. From what I can see in the concept picture shown in a previous post, the change looks very minimal and seems like the hybrid between a redesign and a refresh. If the end product looks like that, I'll be holding on to my F10 for a while longer... |
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07-22-2014, 02:49 PM | #33 |
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Hahahaha no market for tourers I don't live in the states and I know that one is not true! The world does catch up now with things like the Internet and social networking, the USA does know what estate cars are.
It seems a weird world where BMW will build wrong wheel drive but not offer a body style in the richest country in the world... : |
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Just to share, I didn't know I liked and wanted dulce de leche ice cream until I came across it on a menu a few months back. Dulce de leche manufacturers could easily say there is no demand in the UK because it doesn't sell... I didn't even know it existed until then. Easy to justify as 'no demand'. Finally if BMW is as 'premium' as it thinks it is, it should at least allow special orders. Everything else is optional except the body style you want. Not sure if I like BMW tourers or dulce de leche more |
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07-23-2014, 12:18 PM | #36 |
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For some reason I'm not hopeful about the interior, and I know this is not the final product.
And it's to bad there's no 5 series wagon in the US, like to see more modded wagons.
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Its an entirely different story in Europe and Germany in particular.
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OH, and let's not bring the F11 over b/c the E61 failed to sell... ignoring the fact the E61 was BUTT UGLY and the F11 was a beautiful redesign. I would certainly be driving one now if I had the chance! It's great that we were given an additional engine option with the F31, but I am insulted that BMW thinks the only people who are interested in wagons would be satisfied with futzing around town behind a 4-pot diesel... |
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Ditto, though I want to see the new RS6 Avant. Pricey but I'm strongly considering it.
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