[ezaircon4jc]

Originally Posted by Neusser

T... If you enjoy driving, many of the options just add weight and increase the likelihood of expensive repairs...

I've been hearing that about power windows since I started driving (BTW they've been around since the 40's in one form or anther). The only power window failure I've had in the last 38 years was a broken window regulator due to a plastic part failure. I've never had a motor failure. Would you prefer a car with crank windows? A non-syncro manual trans? Seems to me you would be much better off owning a 1965 Chevy.

Oh... I replaced the regulator myself in a couple of hours.

[Gautam]

Originally Posted by Neusser

It isn't a game-changer. It is simply an expansion of an already comprehensive system with multiple sensors, a camera, and a video-game-like screen with lines and guides. And the damn thing will even park itself if you like.

Parking the old-school way involves no sensors or cameras all by your lonesome, which is not how one has to park with the standard system or the expanded system.

You are free to buy whatever you like.

We're all human. Yes, even you. I used to think similarly to you. With my first BMW, I didn't even opt for one with a backup camera, and didn't miss it.

A few years ago, on my second, I sideswiped a pole in a parking garage, grazed it so lightly that I didn't even realize what happened until it was too late. Close to $2000 in damage though it was mostly superficial, more than it'd have cost to have 360 cameras. Perhaps my mind was preoccupied with work. I misjudged the turning radius of my car ever so slightly. I say it could've happened to anyone. My car was not the pole in question's first victim. That's what the nannies are about. We're all human, they help to reduce the margin of human error.

[NGT2]

Neusser holy shit I can’t believe how much pleasure you get from pissing in the punch bowl.

None of us needs anything about these cars, including the cars. We could drive much more cost efficient cars and get where we need to be. That includes you.

The Parking Assistance Pro package is the only way to get 360 cameras. These are also used to see what’s around your car when you’re not there. That’s comforting to some. I’ve also used them when I’m parked and just want a full 360 view of what’s around my car, because the world is harsh and people get car jacked in American metro areas like they’re handing out candy.

It’s also not all about parking. I live in a neighborhood with tons of kids playing. I have two little boys. When I back out, my fence and retaining wall hide the west side of my driveway and the cameras give me a little better view than I can get in my mirrors.

I could give a half a rats ass if the car parks itself and I park cars without cameras just fine. But I get practical use out of the cameras every day, and not just from the convenience it affords when I park. It’s an option I feel is worth it. If you don’t, then don’t get it. THAT IS WHY IT IS CALLED A GOSHDAMN OPTION. Jeez man, get a grip and respect that not everyone wants what you want out of the car and options.

And the whole “more stuff to break” is technically true but I could say that about anything. It sounds like you should be driving a more practical economy brand and model.

BUT none of this will matter because you really just like being a trolling pain in the ass.

[Neusser]

Originally Posted by NGT2

Neusser holy shit I can’t believe how much pleasure you get from pissing in the punch bowl.

None of us needs anything about these cars, including the cars. We could drive much more cost efficient cars and get where we need to be. That includes you.

The Parking Assistance Pro package is the only way to get 360 cameras. These are also used to see what’s around your car when you’re not there. That’s comforting to some. I’ve also used them when I’m parked and just want a full 360 view of what’s around my car, because the world is harsh and people get car jacked in American metro areas like they’re handing out candy.

It’s also not all about parking. I live in a neighborhood with tons of kids playing. I have two little boys. When I back out, my fence and retaining wall hide the west side of my driveway and the cameras give me a little better view than I can get in my mirrors.

I could give a half a rats ass if the car parks itself and I park cars without cameras just fine. But I get practical use out of the cameras every day, and not just from the convenience it affords when I park. It’s an option I feel is worth it. If you don’t, then don’t get it. THAT IS WHY IT IS CALLED A GOSHDAMN OPTION. Jeez man, get a grip and respect that not everyone wants what you want out of the car and options.

And the whole “more stuff to break” is technically true but I could say that about anything. It sounds like you should be driving a more practical economy brand and model.

BUT none of this will matter because you really just like being a trolling pain in the ass.

You've misunderstood my posts. I would suggest a relaxing re-read. I simply pointed out that the upgraded pack was not needed, since that was in line with the OP's request.

I pointed out that the base pack has 360 sensors, a back-up camera with guidelines, and self-parking. I know because I have it.

I don't find the upgraded pack "game changing," as the standard pack provides everything that even your grandfather might require to park, even here in the deepest tightest enclaves of the tiniest Dorf in the Alpine old country.

Then one of our seemingly more sensitive members had an issue with me saying one "should not be driving" if one cannot park a 5er with all of these features turned on. He painted himself into a corner, and that was that.

I admit, I did enjoy it near the end, as some folks let their emotions put them in a situation from which it is difficult to walk back.

As always: You should buy what you like. Don't let me or my nasty old opinions dissuade you or get you down.

[Joe-BMW33]

Originally Posted by Neusser

You've misunderstood my posts. I would suggest a relaxing re-read. I simply pointed out that the upgraded pack was not needed, since that was in line with the OP's request.

I pointed out that the base pack has 360 sensors, a back-up camera with guidelines, and self-parking. I know because I have it.

I don't find the upgraded pack "game changing," as the standard pack provides everything that even your grandfather might require to park, even here in the deepest tightest enclaves of the tiniest Dorf in the Alpine old country.

Then one of our seemingly more sensitive members had an issue with me saying one "should not be driving" if one cannot park a 5er with all of these features turned on. He painted himself into a corner, and that was that.

I admit, I did enjoy it near the end, as some folks let their emotions put them in a situation from which it is difficult to walk back.

As always: You should buy what you like. Don't let me or my nasty old opinions dissuade you or get you down.

YOU should really re-read your condescending judgmental posts Nassar. You know exactly what you are doing. You enjoy being a prick and in doing so, you add no value to this forum. Can’t you find another platform to taunt people? It’s a recurring theme here with you, maybe take a look in the mirror. Can we all be wrong to think you’re an asshole troll???

You are literally the only bad apple we have on this board that we all have contributed to it being a respectful community.

And no, don’t ask me to point out or quote your bullshit. You’re just a dick. Yes, I’m name calling, the shoe fits.

Take your snarky wisdom and know it all attitude to a Facebook group. It’s perfect for that where people just want to incite and fight.

[adhrp]

Originally Posted by Neusser

You've misunderstood my posts. I would suggest a relaxing re-read. I simply pointed out that the upgraded pack was not needed, since that was in line with the OP's request.

If you had stopped at that, it'd be all good. Then you began your drivel and offering your baseless opinions on what people should or shouldn't do. You seem to think you win these arguments but all you do is dig a deeper hole the more you talk. Not just this one, but every one of these childish posts you've had in multiple threads. As I said before, who do you think you're fooling here? No one but yourself.

[adhrp]

Originally Posted by Joe-BMW33

YOU should really re-read your condescending judgmental posts Nassar. You know exactly what you are doing. You enjoy being a prick and in doing so, you add no value to this forum. Can’t you find another platform to taunt people? It’s a recurring theme here with you, maybe take a look in the mirror. Can we all be wrong to think you’re an asshole troll???

Of course he knows what he is doing. Classic behavior from those trying to grab attention behind the safety of online anonymity with disregard to the effects on the community (because there are few consequences to anonymous internet trolling). Trouble with reading comprehension, a lack of self-awareness, immaturity, belligerence, lack of social skills...all quite revealing.

[Bob in IL]

The "Ignore" feature is your friend and was made for situations like this.

[Joe-BMW33]

Originally Posted by Bob in IL

The "Ignore" feature is your friend and was made for situations like this.

Shouldn't have to Bob, and to be honest, the "feature" is annoying. People can still quote him and you will see it and it is pretty much in your face on a thread the ignored person is chiming in on because it basically tells you, so and so posted but you can't see it.

Now if EVERYONE blocked him, it would be like he isn't here, hmmmm...

We are mature adults here for the most part. If you have to "ignore" someone, there is a problem. This isn't Facebook, we aren't here to get trolled and block people.

[ezaircon4jc]

IMHO, the biggest problem is he has about 1% useful information and 99% condescending judgmentalism. It's getting tough to wade through the rubbish to get to anything possibly useful.

[BlueSander]

Originally Posted by Cashews

Hi folks!

I've been in the market for a 2021+ M550i for not too long, and I've come across some great options but I've been having some back and forth with myself with what to prioritize, and would appreciate some perspectives on this!

I'm going the CPO route and narrowed my options down to the two below:

1) 2021 M550i with 10.5K miles, Dynamic Handling Package, Shadowline Package, Executive Package, Dakota Seats

2) 2021 M550i with 44.3K miles, Driving Assistance Plus, Dynamic Handling Package, Parking Assistance Package, Executive Package, Nappa Seats

Both cars have the same color. Option #1 is $7K more. I'm not too worried about the price difference but one very much was a weekend car and didn't accumulate many miles or really any wear, but the other is feature-rich at the cost of higher mileage history. I do think Dynamic Handling and at least Premium or Executive packages are mostly what I'd be happy with, but Driver+Parking assistance would come in handy, especially since I do a lot of city driving/parking and long trips.

I'm not quite sure what I should prioritize, but knowing I plan to keep the car for at least the next 5 to 10 years. It's just a matter of if the lower mileage or features I'd definitely use would encourage me to get to that point.

Any thoughts are appreciated!

Have you decided on which car to get? If you have posted the actual prices on both, we would have given better suggestions.

[Joe-BMW33]

Originally Posted by BlueSander

Have you decided on which car to get? If you have posted the actual prices on both, we would have given better suggestions.

Pretty sure he is moving on from both and taking our advice to be patient and get 90% of what you want, including a few less miles than #2.

[adhrp]

Originally Posted by ezaircon4jc

IMHO, the biggest problem is he has about 1% useful information and 99% condescending judgmentalism. It's getting tough to wade through the rubbish to get to anything possibly useful.

And that's what's really frustrating. Many threads he comments on result in some sort of spat because of caustic, off-topic, petty comments and the thread turns into a pile of rubbish that does a disservice to the OP and becomes useless for anyone visiting it for useful information. That is why I have used the "ignore" feature for months, but like many others, finally decide to speak out and I tried my best to do it in a thread with minimal collateral damage where the OP's question was largely answered and he has moved on to wait and find another car that suits his preferences.

[JTV]

then again, I ordered my 2022 M550i with no options other than the alcantara headliner and heated steering wheel.

[Joe-BMW33]

Originally Posted by JTV

then again, I ordered my 2022 M550i with no options other than the alcantara headliner and heated steering wheel.

That’s an outlier and an anomaly. You pretty much have to order a car that unique, because they don’t build M550’s like that because the dealer would have a tough time selling it and the owner would have a tough time reselling it. Buyers of M550’s like options.

[Neusser]

Originally Posted by adhrp

I think your statement about if you can't park, you shouldn't drive is off topic and quite the leap from what was said.

You've misquoted me again. I said if you can't park with all of the sensors on in the standard sytem, that you should not be driving.

This has got to be some kind of record.

[Chappers 71]

Originally Posted by Neusser

You've misquoted me again. I said if you can't park with all of the sensors on in the standard sytem, that you should not be driving.

This has got to be some kind of record.

Mate…just stop being an arse

[Neusser]

Originally Posted by Chappers 71

Mate…just stop being an arse

Go pull the original quote, Chapplet.

Show us what I actually said.



Go on, do it.

[Chappers 71]

Originally Posted by Neusser

Go pull the original quote, Chapplet.

Show us what I actually said.



Go on, do it.

It’s not about what you may or may not have posted in this particular thread Neusser.
You’ve rubbed most of us up the wrong way at one time or another with a fair few of your posts/comments, and tbf the G30 forum has the most tolerant, likeable, amusing & helpful bunch of ‘car guys’ that you’ll be likely to find on a car forum.

It’s your loss mate if you just wanna come on here & take the piss

[Neusser]

Originally Posted by Chappers 71

It’s not about what you may or may not have posted in this particular thread Neusser.
You’ve rubbed most of us up the wrong way at one time or another with a fair few of your posts/comments, and tbf the G30 forum has the most tolerant, likeable, amusing & helpful bunch of ‘car guys’ that you’ll be likely to find on a car forum.

It’s your loss if mate if you just wanna come on here & take the piss

Pile-on Sally can't produce the quote.

Oh, well.

[Chappers 71]

Originally Posted by Neusser

Pile-on Sally can't produce the quote.

Oh, well.

Lol “Pile on Sally”
You really are a cock, I’m done with you

[Cashews]

Originally Posted by BlueSander

Have you decided on which car to get? If you have posted the actual prices on both, we would have given better suggestions.

Just to echo what others have suggested, I'm gonna wait for a bit and see what comes along as leases come to an end!

But yes you're right, price for clarification was $60K for the 10K mile one and $56K for the 44K mile + loaded one.