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In before..."those rims are ugly!" and "WTF are they thinking with those lights!"
Looks like the car isn't getting any larger which is refreshing, as is the slightly taller greenhouse and dramatic classic BMW sedan roofline- very e46.. or f30 or....
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Haha, I see your skin is much thinner than the camo... clearly you can understand the mild frustration with such ridiculous persistently lack witted comments.
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I know the next M5 and M6 will feature a lot of innovation as every generation does, but I feel that ///M's decision to use the same exact engine setup (another Twin Turbo V8 design) as the last generation, is in a word "disappointing." They have never really done this before (if you don't count the X5M/X6M) and even if they completely reworked the S63tu or came up with another design but one that uses the same Hot V setup, I'm sure it will be good but nothing special anymore. Besides, we pretty much now know that M is going to limit the output of their engines to 600hp in the foreseeable future for M cars and because of this, it simply means that any innovation towards more horsepower simply won't happen. No, I predict that M's future goals in the engine department are to produce an engine that is more efficient both in terms of power delivery and fuel consumption. There are several things I'm sure that they are working on with the next M5 powerplant, all of which are not a surprise; making the engine lighter, increasing the efficiency of the turbos, more torque, better fuel efficiency, etc, etc... I say if they are going to stick with the same exact formula as before, another Hot-V Twin Turbo V8, how about making it more exciting by giving it an 8,500rpm redline? At least give us that! McLaren makes it work, why can't M?? How about a 3.8L Hot V Twin Turbo V8 that makes 600hp and 600tq, has an 8,500rpm redline and gets 27mpg on the highway? Is this beyond M's capability today or within the next couple of years? I really feel like we can't expect anything from BMW M engines that is going to knock our socks off in terms of exoticness any more. I'm not asking for another S54 I6, S65 V8, or S85 V10 engine from M, I'm asking for another engine that gives the same feeling of visceralality as those engines give, turbo or not. The new Alfa Guilia engine sounds fantastic by the way, and that is a turbo engine. BMW M has always had the capability to do so but now simply lacks either the will or the permission to do that again and that is what is driving me away from the brand as much as I love it. I'm just lucky the S63tu sounds good with a proper exhaust as it was a most difficult transition from the 5.0L V10 S85. I won't be buying the G90 M5 for a myriad of reasons most likely, but the engine will be a big reason why I won't if they don't give it any flare.
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I think he meant the smaller car lost more weight, proportionally
Like the more overweight you are, the easier it is to shed pounds. So the 5 and 7 have more poundage that they can lose than the smaller/lighter A4.
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looks like the hood design stays (i like in on the F10), but the hood cut line goes (yay!!)
very E90-esque but overall the better design |
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Yes, indeed! Took a visit during Spring time in Geneve and most Performance sedans were RS, not AMG or M - some markets really need an AWD option to increase numbers.
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As for the title of the newspost, who came up with G90? It is definitely called F90. And will have a 4.4l V8 with 608ps Last edited by fsfikke; 07-15-2015 at 04:13 AM.. |
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I don't want a Hybrid Assist. I'd rather they bring the M550d here to America. Lol!
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In the past M used shatter all the HP milestones with each gen of cars. Today with 600 they are merely match what the market offers in terms of performance envelope. With the C class reaching 577 BHP, are they under the illusion that the next gen competitors will hold at 600 as well? I think with the turbo tech pushing well beyond the 600 mark reliably is relatively easy and cheap so why hold back? Also; in all clean mobility tech, BMW has led the way from diesels through electrification so they easily get away with a few M nice cars to keep us petrol heads happy. |
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Won't happen, no market for the 550d.
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