BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
BMW 5-Series (G30) Forum 2017+ BMW 5 Series (G30) General Discussions Odds on 6MT in the US?

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      11-14-2015, 10:05 AM   #1
Needsdecaf
Major General
Needsdecaf's Avatar
6356
Rep
6,564
Posts

Drives: 2024 G80 Comp xDrive
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: The Woodlands, TX

iTrader: (0)

Odds on 6MT in the US?

BIMMERPOST
     Featured on BIMMERPOST.com
What do you think the odds are that the new Funfer comes to the US with three pedals? Somehow
I doubt it, but having sat in a new 7 series yesterday, I think the new 5 is going to be mighty tempting. But given what I went through with my previous 535, I am very wary of the automatic.

Thoughts?
Appreciate 0
      11-14-2015, 07:55 PM   #2
DETSGTSTARSKY
Private First Class
69
Rep
127
Posts

Drives: BMW
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: FL

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Needsdecaf View Post
What do you think the odds are that the new Funfer comes to the US with three pedals? Somehow
I doubt it, but having sat in a new 7 series yesterday, I think the new 5 is going to be mighty tempting. But given what I went through with my previous 535, I am very wary of the automatic.

Thoughts?
Probably not going to happen. With the take rate of a Manual at under 15% for the U.S. BMW won't want to put one in a regular 5 series. They talked of getting rid of the manual entirely for the next gen M5.
Appreciate 0
      11-15-2015, 07:46 AM   #3
remmib
General
remmib's Avatar
Norway
1566
Rep
29,202
Posts

Drives: 2013 F10 520d M-Sport
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Norway

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by DETSGTSTARSKY
Quote:
Originally Posted by Needsdecaf View Post
What do you think the odds are that the new Funfer comes to the US with three pedals? Somehow
I doubt it, but having sat in a new 7 series yesterday, I think the new 5 is going to be mighty tempting. But given what I went through with my previous 535, I am very wary of the automatic.

Thoughts?
Probably not going to happen. With the take rate of a Manual at under 15% for the U.S. BMW won't want to put one in a regular 5 series. They talked of getting rid of the manual entirely for the next gen M5.
The f10 M5 only gets 6MT in the US I believe not in Europe, and I doubt we'll see it in the next g30.
__________________

F10 520d M-Sport Alpine White | HRE P43SC 20x9+20x11 | Michelin PSS 255/35+295/30 | KW V3 Coilover | M5 Front Sway Bar + M550d Rear Sway Bar | 3DDesign Front Lip | BMW M Performance CF Spoiler | BMW M Performance Diffuser | BMW M Performance Black Grills | BMW M Performance Pedals |
Appreciate 0
      11-19-2015, 04:30 PM   #4
Bbb34
Major
Canada
731
Rep
1,472
Posts

Drives: '11 535i 6sp. DHP/RWD
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: ON

iTrader: (0)

I don't think there's any chance of seeing one in North America in any trim.
I really hope I'm wrong, but just don't see it happening.

Percentage of car buyers looking for MT in N. America is around what, 10% maybe ? That number is much smaller within buyers of this type of car, close to zero demand for this.
Appreciate 0
      01-17-2016, 04:46 PM   #5
Skibum
Enlisted Member
Skibum's Avatar
United_States
6
Rep
36
Posts

Drives: 2014 F10 LCI 550i Luxury Line
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Cincinnati, OH 45231 USA

iTrader: (0)

Funny, my local dealer refers to my car as "The Unicorn". Yet 1 out of 5 F10 550i's I see around here have a stick (and I'm not talking about M5s), so I'm not sure I entirely agree with the notion that 5-series buyers don't want manuals. They do have to perform all their crash tests on models with a different transmission to see how the drivetrain behaves, so the added cost of that alone might be what deters the bean counters from offering manuals for sale here. Surely they would sell every manual offered. An enthusiast oriented management team (as opposed to the current batch of total dweebs in NJ) would offer the G30 and G31 with 3 pedal petrol and diesel versions.
__________________
Current stable:
2002 Nissan Pathfinder SE 4WD 5MT
2004 Mazda 6S Wagon 5MT
2014 BMW 550i Luxury Line
Former: 2011 BMW 535i 6MT / 2012 BMW 550i Sport 6MT / 2014 BMW 535i M-sport 6MT
Appreciate 0
      01-17-2016, 08:51 PM   #6
Needsdecaf
Major General
Needsdecaf's Avatar
6356
Rep
6,564
Posts

Drives: 2024 G80 Comp xDrive
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: The Woodlands, TX

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Skibum View Post
Funny, my local dealer refers to my car as "The Unicorn". Yet 1 out of 5 F10 550i's I see around here have a stick (and I'm not talking about M5s), so I'm not sure I entirely agree with the notion that 5-series buyers don't want manuals. They do have to perform all their crash tests on models with a different transmission to see how the drivetrain behaves, so the added cost of that alone might be what deters the bean counters from offering manuals for sale here. Surely they would sell every manual offered. An enthusiast oriented management team (as opposed to the current batch of total dweebs in NJ) would offer the G30 and G31 with 3 pedal petrol and diesel versions.
FYI, it's not the crash testing that hinders powertrain adoption, it's the actual powertrain certification itself. Each powertrain must be certified to meet emission standards, and that's what costs.

Especially if you cheat...
Appreciate 0
      03-13-2016, 09:36 AM   #7
823BMW
Private First Class
823BMW's Avatar
United_States
183
Rep
113
Posts

Drives: 2020 X5, 2020 Tesla Y, 2020 Z4
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Florida

iTrader: (0)

I sent a request to BMW via their BMW Genius email to ask for a manual transmission in the G30. I would love to replace my 2011 535i 6 speed manual with a new one! They will certainly produce them for Europe, but I agree it is a matter whether there is enough demand to offer and certify for the US.
Appreciate 0
      03-14-2016, 11:04 AM   #8
823BMW
Private First Class
823BMW's Avatar
United_States
183
Rep
113
Posts

Drives: 2020 X5, 2020 Tesla Y, 2020 Z4
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Florida

iTrader: (0)

BMW Genius responded:

"Thanks for contacting the BMW Genius Team regarding the 2017 BMW 5 Series.

Our BMW engineering and design teams are dedicated to creating vehicles that move today?s consumers and their demand for enhanced utility and more versatility. Customer feedback plays an integral role in improving product design and development. We appreciate the time you have taken to share your thoughts regarding a manual transmission; your sentiments will be heard and considered."

So email and let them know:
bmwgenius@bmwusa.com
Appreciate 1
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:02 AM.




5post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST