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G30 Prototype First Drive Reviews Compilation
Featured on BIMMERPOST.com Autocar Autoexpress Automobile Car and Driver Drive Wards Auto What Car? Haven't been able to find a thread on this yet so figured I'd make one, but AutoCar drove a G30 530i, 530d xDrive and 540i. They posted their thoughts on the diesel and seem to love it :thump: Mind these are like those pre-release G02 740i first drives so it's nowhere near final spec but still something nice to look forward to! Here's the link and some interesting tidbits: Quote:
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I'm confident about the steering feeling. If it'll be much better thank what we find today in almos every standard BMW, is a great news. I don't like my current F10 steering feel, I want more precise and havier steering in this next G30.
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Yes they did.
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Sounds like some typical generic garbage. They try too hard to sound overly sophisticated. I could pay someone on fiverr to write a better review
Least they coulda done was mention how it feels compared to the f10. I wanna hear all about the weight ! |
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Disappointed to read that Car and Driver found steering feedback non existent. :
And then to read that BMW found that customers want more calm and relaxing steering? So I guess we can look forward to future reviews complaining about no steering feedback. |
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More than the dog F10 I want to know how it drives vs. the wonderful E60.
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Car and Driver: do they hate BMW?
Looks like the people at Car and Driver have nothing but hate for the steering: words such as:
- But we found the base steering effort too low, and feedback from the road through the guidance hardware to the driver’s hands is totally absent - The steering was perfect for effort but numb-feeling and totally lacking in feedback from the road. Auto Express said the complete opposite: - The steering is lovely, with real precision to it, but not too much weight. As well as Autocar: - The newly developed speed-sensitive system is an advance on that of the outgoing model, delivering greater feel around the straight-ahead, more consistent weighting in the first half a turn of lock and suppressing kickback with greater authority on lumpy surfaces. By any standards, this is first-rate steering, endowing the new BMW with great precision, feel and dependability. There’s an underlying calmness to its operation that impressed us greatly during our first drive. Maybe Car and Driver are expecting steering feel like the Porsche 911 (different target)? And they barely ever criticise Audi for their steering which is often worse than BMW... In all their reviews of BMW's there is always an underlying sense of hate for the manufacturer, as if they can't get over the fact that the company is not making cars like 10 years ago...
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I REALLY hope BMW USA gives customers the option for a spare tire and conventional tires. That alone would make the car ride and handle better. Less impact harshness and easier for the suspension to do its work having less weight from conventional tires.
BMW Please give us that as an option. PLEASE.
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I think the words of Car and Driver are misleading, they say: "He stressed that few, if any, BMW customers around the globe are requesting more tactility in their steering" then said "one of the most frequent words voiced during customer surveys is “isolation.” The buyers find that a desirable trait". This last IMO is a misquote from CandD. I think the engineer meant that customers wanted more OVERALL refinement such as less wind and road noise and the likes, and NOT less steering feel.
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seems to me that BMW is putting themselves into an almost impossible place to make everyone happy.
-run flats will be standard: we all know that the ride on these tires are uncompromising and excessively harsh- the masses want run flats, the enthusiasts do not. the masses far outweigh the enthusiasts and any drop in G-series sales will be considered failure. note that the 540 was on non run flats and damper control was good with this combo -car and drivers review was quite negative and not reassuring to be the "sportiest" entry. e60 to f10 was a huge swing to numbness and "isolation". the review on the g series only makes me more worried. -is anyone else worried about this "adaptive" mode?
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BMW has been playing to the least common denominator for too long already.
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Not something you want to do after buying a new car but likely makes this car 10x better as well |
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I expect the car to drive very well, but why did they bother with the camouflage? We all now how the car will look, particularly the boring interior
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Anyway, we'll find out more with drives of the production version. The good news is that the G30 5 series shreds up to 100kg, which is huge for this size of car and may help it get its driving dynamics back like the E39 used to be...
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Just swapping the tyres is less expensive
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Maybe...they can offer a different steering gear as a Performance Optional. In my opinion, I don't care to have a poor steering feel if the majority of customers want it, but, for the enthusiat customers, they should develop something more direct and sporty. For example, in the M140i you can ha a limited slip differential, along with a more stiff and precise sport suspension. Why they didn't offer also a different, more heavy and direct steering gear? In my opinion, if they do it, they'll make all sort of customer happy. Because who want something quiet, they have the base steering, who wants something heavier and sportier, they have the option.
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