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The M3/4 we can get with or without CP.
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I do think that it is going to happen again this time around, but the gap might be less with this generation. The ICE is dying, so what is happening with AMG and M in the coming generations? The F90 is bringing little excitement, worst part is the uninspiring engine note and the gear shifter, looks like the one in my old E39.
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Some youtube reviewer jumping in the front seat for a few hours won't be able to give you anything other than a vague initial impression.
I'll be curious to see what an actual owner has to say about the car in a few months time. |
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Makes sense.
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The F10 M5/M6 GC will be newest M cars cars I can see myself owning, unless they ever build a M2 GC 6MT (I probably have better odds winning the lotto than this).
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12-04-2017, 11:21 AM | #74 |
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The press launches tend to be the worst reviews of the car, wait till each outlet gets a car and can do proper tests and take their time. Gotta imagine ZCP is announced in March and will be going into production for the 2019 model year in June/July of 2018 so most people are waiting on that anyway. Then LCI for 2020 model year.
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Just because you're a professional critic/reviewer/journalist doesn't mean you will like or dislike the same things as me. Taste is subjective and yes, the opinion of average joe matters as much as the pro's opinion, especially when looking to buy a $100k car. To clarify: I'm not saying i don't value a journalists review, i'm just saying these initial press release reviews are never informative enough. Last edited by AndrewC1989; 12-04-2017 at 11:41 AM.. |
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12-04-2017, 11:30 AM | #77 |
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If you don't like it, don't buy it!
Come on, with the drag races: F90 vs RS6 vs RS7, S63 vs Panamera turbo etc. Also, i would like to see the gap between the P100D and the F90 (tuned). Hopefully it will do better than the M760Li. I need a family M cruiser next year and will choose between a M5 F90 or X5M (second hand obviously)
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I too like the look of the F10 M5's mirrors over the new F90 M5! Wonder if anyone will consider a retro-fit!
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I've realised after watching the Carwow review the reason the M5 is not available as a Tourer is because launch control would put the dog through the rear windscreen
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Or maybe not best wait for the ZCP in case this is too slow |
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12-04-2017, 12:13 PM | #83 |
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The digital dash seems really bad. Not even change display as drive mode changes in regular 5,7. Just mimicking analog needle, why bother in the first place to make it digital then?
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Considering how gaudy/ugly the 5/7 digital dashes are in sport mode I welcome the fact they kept it more classic looking. However I agree with your overall point, I wish analog gauges were still here at least for another generation, I really dislike digital gauges in general. At least porsche did them close to right and kept the analog tach.
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This generation M5 is probably the least exciting M car debut as far as I can remember.
I don't see a single feature that's fascinating. Looking forward to the LCI version and the next gen M5. |
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I'm very disappointed to hear all this negativity about new M5 on this forum, if you want pure
N/A Engine, Manual, lightweight M Car, then buy e92 M3 Competition Pack, there's plenty examples around, M5 is always been understated Super Quick Super Saloon with some extra gadgets. the way I see it, it's as fast, as grippy, as much gadgets as e63 or any other competition and then some, if you don't like Exaust sound, me neither, so buy aftermarket one or even BMW M Performance Exaust, in regards to steering, that's what BMW offers and I don't think anyone has better. Verdict: BMW M always been better, much better than competitors, but now, M got caught. Surely BMW will try to change the game again, and as long as they produce compact manual drivers cars I will always stick with BMW M, if don't agree, stop Moaning, buy something else and be happy. |
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I think most disappointment comes from the car not being a great "M5". It is a great car to newcomers and a decent car in the segment for journalists to review, but F90 has nowhere the impact that E39 and E60 had when they launched, especially when you remember that E60 had been compared to F430 in terms of character by JC on Top Gear. It was sure a surprise to hear that steering feel is numb on the new M5 though. I thought they'd at least get these right having used the same engine and less characterful transmission.
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