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Spied: G30 5 Series Prototype vs F10 5 Series

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The G30 5 Series prototype has been spotted out testing and being evaluated against the current F10 5 Series. While the exterior size look similar, the platform underneath will be totally new -- based on the modular CLAR platform (Cluster Architecture) which will also underpin the next 3, 5, and 6 Series, as well as the next the X3, X4, X5, X6 and X7.

The G30 will accomplish weight reduction using pressed steel, aluminum, magnesium and a carbon fiber load bearing section of the chassis which may result in weight reductions of more than 200 pounds.

On the exterior, the G30 appears similar to the F10 in size and proportions, but unlike the F10 (and like the upcoming G11/G12 7 series), the G30 sports a revised hood cutline which no longer awkwardly cuts across the hood. Under the dummy camouflage lights are L-shaped tail lights and L-shaped headlights.

Gas / Diesel / Hybrid Models

According to our future models index, the US will receive 530i, 540i, 550i and 540d models. xDrive will be available on all models, with the 540d and 550i models possibly xDrive only in the U.S., subject to change. Expect the G30 to be powered by the same next generation engines to appear in the 3 Series (LCI) and G11 7 Series -- everything from a 3-cylinder to the B48 4-cylinder, B58 6-cylinder, and N63 8-cylinder.

As part of BMW's strategy to offer a hybrid version of each of its core models, there will also be a G30 plug-in hybrid model, which has already been spied.

Technology

Some of the fancy tech in the next 7 Series will also flow down to the G30, including touchscreen iDrive, laser headlight option, and a rumored separate passenger monitor. Other 7 Series options which may or may not appear in the 5 Series are: automatic parking with remote control, new "active comfort drive" assist, gesture control, wireless charging for phones

The G30's reveal comes in 2016.

G30 vs F10 5 Series

[DeeKay]

Damn that F10 still looks bloody awesome!

[Golden Arrow]

Hopefully the design elements on the upcoming 5er don't look at Lexus-ish as the ones on the new 7er.

[Needsdecaf]

I'd be happy with a very light refresh looks wise and interior wise, focus mostly on weight reduction and making it drive more like an E60 than an F01 7 series.

[wdeerfield]

Originally Posted by Needsdecaf

I'd be happy with a very light refresh looks wise and interior wise, focus mostly on weight reduction and making it drive more like an E60 than an F01 7 series.

i agree. i think the f10 is damn near perfect. i think we'll see the headlights meet the grill and a revised tail to mimic the new 7er. the interior will hopefully just be refreshed.

[norsairius]

Originally Posted by DeeKay

Damn that F10 still looks bloody awesome!

Agreed! I wasn't a huge fan of the E60, but the F10 just looks amazing. Real presence on the road too. I plan on looking at picking up an F10 when it comes time to buy another car or replace mine.

[TheBingoBalls]

With the W213 E-Class expected to follow the design language of the S-Class and C-Class, I'm hoping BMW does something more than what they did with the GXX 7-Series. Right now, all current Mercedes' look a hell of a lot more premium than their BMW counterpart both interior and exterior.

[m_alnimah]

Originally Posted by TheBingoBalls

With the W213 E-Class expected to follow the design language of the S-Class and C-Class, I'm hoping BMW does something more than what they did with the GXX 7-Series. Right now, all current Mercedes' look a hell of a lot more premium than their BMW counterpart both interior and exterior.

Well, they can't always beat Mercedes, They will be a tad lower sometime.. About the G30, I believe the 530i will be a 4 cyl (my brother insists it'll be an i6 like his E60) and unlike the F10/E60 530i it'll get Dual Exhausts! But can someone please explain that new platform they're following for me? Sorry for the dumb question

[Diver]

It's nice that a diesel will be offered, but high diesel fuel prices don't help the economics any.

[TheBingoBalls]

Originally Posted by m_alnimah

Well, they can't always beat Mercedes, They will be a tad lower sometime.. About the G30, I believe the 530i will be a 4 cyl (my brother insists it'll be an i6 like his E60) and unlike the F10/E60 530i it'll get Dual Exhausts! But can someone please explain that new platform they're following for me? Sorry for the dumb question

BMW doesn't have to beat them but they have to be at least on par. Yes I know the 3-Series is more sport/luxury and the C-Class is luxury now (previously luxury/sport) but I went to the Mercedes dealership to check out the W205 C-Class and it's laughable how the interior of the 3-Series is not even in the same league.

The new platform is supposed to reduce weight (and costs if you're a bean counter) by allowing BMW to modulate it according to the car they're building.

[Eddien123]

Good luck to the designers. The F10 is the prettiest 5er yet.

[StealYourFace]

Looks like a slightly bigger greenhouse which is great

[PARTS@STBMW]

Can't wait to see it unwrapped!

[Jai 302]

Originally Posted by m_alnimah

Well, they can't always beat Mercedes, They will be a tad lower sometime.. About the G30, I believe the 530i will be a 4 cyl (my brother insists it'll be an i6 like his E60) and unlike the F10/E60 530i it'll get Dual Exhausts! But can someone please explain that new platform they're following for me? Sorry for the dumb question

Can't speak for other models but AFAIK the 6 series looks AND feels more premium than its competitor at MB (CLS-Class). That's why I chose mine after test driving both despite the BMW costing significantly more than the CLS 350 - the I6 640 costed as much as the V8 CLS 500 but it was worth it because of the gorgeous exterior and interior.

IMHO outside of the G-class and AMG GT, everything that Merc currently makes is pretty dull and ugly to me. I think the SLS is one of the best cars of this decade and the old C63 Coupe looked pretty sharp too. Looks like they're back to making cars for old people again.

I'm thinking of trading in my 6er for an F10 M5 but I hope BMW keeps the F10 M for at least 2 years before replacing it so that my car won't get outdated so fast. The G10 looks pretty similar to the F10 though at least from the side. Hope the weight reduction will be sufficient to enable it to be one of the fastest sedans on the planet again.

[m_alnimah]

Originally Posted by Jai 302

Can't speak for other models but AFAIK the 6 series looks AND feels more premium than its competitor at MB (CLS-Class). That's why I chose mine after test driving both despite the BMW costing significantly more than the CLS 350 - the I6 640 costed as much as the V8 CLS 500 but it was worth it because of the gorgeous exterior and interior.

IMHO outside of the G-class and AMG GT, everything that Merc currently makes is pretty dull and ugly to me. I think the SLS is one of the best cars of this decade and the old C63 Coupe looked pretty sharp too. Looks like they're back to making cars for old people again.

I'm thinking of trading in my 6er for an F10 M5 but I hope BMW keeps the F10 M for at least 2 years before replacing it so that my car won't get outdated so fast. The G10 looks pretty similar to the F10 though at least from the side. Hope the weight reduction will be sufficient to enable it to be one of the fastest sedans on the planet again.

"The G10....." G30* and I drive a 640i GC as well, ever since I test drove that E 350 AMG back in late 2010 I hated it! Went for an F10 535i and then to a 2015 Mini Countryman which didn't even hit 1,000 kms and now a GC. BMWs never get Boring, they suit all ages... I see young kids driving 528's while my grandma also drives one (in sport mode believe it or not, god bless er)

So in my Opinion the Gxx models will be a step forward but will definitely have some downsides, perfect example. We hated the F10's steering because it no longer is as sporty and heavy as the E60. But look at how successful it is. Same with the X3, X5/6, 7er, 3/4er, 6er etc etc.

Why worry, just let BMW designers and developers do their magic and steal our attention (and money )

Edit: By "Kids" I mean 20+ Yr Olds

[chrisny]

Originally Posted by DeeKay

Damn that F10 still looks bloody awesome!

+1. Probably my next car

[IS3andME]

Originally Posted by Eddien123

Good luck to the designers. The F10 is the prettiest 5er yet.

Maybe to you. And you may just be in the minority. To me and many others, the e39 was the last aesthetically good looking 5er. The current F10 looks "blah", it just has this generic look to it. The e39, e34, e28, e12 all have an iconic look to them that set them apart on the road. Starting with the e60, it seems (to me and others) it has gone down hill.
Hopefully, the G30 can fix that. Because as it stands, the E Class, GS, A6, CTS have stepped it up.

[Eddien123]

Originally Posted by IS3andME

Maybe to you. And you may just be in the minority. To me and many others, the e39 was the last aesthetically good looking 5er. The current F10 looks "blah", it just has this generic look to it. The e39, e34, e28, e12 all have an iconic look to them that set them apart on the road. Starting with the e60, it seems (to me and others) it has gone down hill.
Hopefully, the G30 can fix that. Because as it stands, the E Class, GS, A6, CTS have stepped it up.

That's interesting. I thought it was a general acceptance the te F10 was a great looking car. While the E60 rubbed many the wrong way, I have grown to love the design of it. And I don't know about the E class. Besides the coupes, they've always been so boring looking to me.

[psuibmw]

Originally Posted by Eddien123

Good luck to the designers. The F10 is the prettiest 5er yet.

Totally agree ... After 5 years on the road the 5er is still a looker

[Needsdecaf]

Originally Posted by Eddien123

Good luck to the designers. The F10 is the prettiest 5er yet.

It is! It's so good looking that it makes me want to buy another one even though my first one had a ton of issues.

[Needsdecaf]

Originally Posted by IS3andME

Maybe to you. And you may just be in the minority. To me and many others, the e39 was the last aesthetically good looking 5er. The current F10 looks "blah", it just has this generic look to it. The e39, e34, e28, e12 all have an iconic look to them that set them apart on the road. Starting with the e60, it seems (to me and others) it has gone down hill.
Hopefully, the G30 can fix that. Because as it stands, the E Class, GS, A6, CTS have stepped it up.

I think that you are in the minority.

[raysspl]

Can't wait to see the final specs, especially weight!