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      10-13-2016, 02:48 AM   #177
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To give you all a better idea of the changes, a couple of pics OLD VS NEW (M Sport versions). Guess which is which (especially from the rear)!! I'd say very (very) evolutionary design which is understandable because of the success of the F10. On the other hand, one can say there is stagnation if the BMW designs...
While we all have our different opinions, I thought the F10 looked too bloated and boring, and it kept me in my 08 550i. The G30 looks PERFECT to me, and fixes everything I didn't like about the F10.

The headlights look great to me - classy, but complex like the backside of a high end watch.

The taillights fix what I didn't like about the F10 - it felt like they drew in lines just to have lines, while the G30's lights look sleek and complicated - though I'm not sold on the blinkers being so humongous.

All in all, I'm in love. I'll test drive the 540ix as soon as it's in the showroom, and if it passes there, then I'll be one of the first in line for the M550i.

Thanks for all the work you put into the renderings over the last couple months, by the way. Now get to work on the M5!
Thanks for your comment, I do like the G30 but wish it looked a little sleeker, IE slimmer headlights and rear lights. For example Porsche made that transition in their latest 911 and they look the better for it...

About the M5, yes, I'll be working on some renders when I have a minute!

I'd wait for the 2nd year production so they can iron out issues of the 1st year ;-) Unfortunately looks like there won't be a 550i but a M (performance) 550i XDrive...

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I think cars like this is hard to give the right appearance on photo and video - they look awesome in the flesh
I think it looks great in pictures too
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Wait you guys to see it in person, it looks so sleek!
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      10-13-2016, 02:56 AM   #180
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RIP mid-sized luxury V8's.

stunning car though...
The M550i XDrive is available in Germany so maybe it will be in the US... See a previous post about the specs. V8 twin turbo and 0-62 mph in 4.6 secs!
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They killed the 535....... Dang!!!!!!
It's available in Germany as the 540i and 540i X Drive. I'm pretty sure it will come to the US...
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      10-13-2016, 03:02 AM   #182
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I think you got the data for 540i not the 540i xDrive.
540i is 1660kg, but xDrive model should be ~1730kg.
Hi. In the German specs DIN weight (with 90% full tank and NO driver): 540i: 1595kg and 540i XDrive: 1660kg. EU weights with 90% fuel tank and 75kg driver: 540i: 1670kg and 540i Xdrive: 1735kg.

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      10-13-2016, 03:07 AM   #184
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Come on and release the M5, I might just trade in my X6M early for this.
I'm pretty sure it won't be available before the 2nd part of 2017, or even early 2018... It will be available in both RWD and AWD for the 1st time...
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Many sources say it is 4.4 liter. Is that a fact?
I was really looking forward to this car and hoping for 4.0 liter.

Annual taxes here for anything over 4.0 liter is just crazy.
M550i Xdrive (German version):
BMW M550i xDrive:
Achtzylinder-Benzinmotor,
8-Gang Steptronic.
Hubraum: 4.395 cm3.
Leistung: 340 kW/462 PS bei 5.500 min-1.
Maximales Drehmoment: 650 Nm ab 1.800 min-1.
Beschleunigung (0–100 km/h): 4,0 s.
Verbrauch kombiniert: 8,9 l/100 km*.
CO2-Emissionen kombiniert: 204 g/km.

I've lightened the colour of the car to show its design details.

I think it will be a great base for my future render of the M5 ;-)
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Hi. In the German specs DIN weight (with 90% full tank and NO driver): 540i: 1595kg and 540i XDrive: 1660kg. EU weights with 90% fuel tank and 75kg driver: 540i: 1670kg and 540i Xdrive: 1735kg.

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Thanks for the clarification Paul.
It's just important to compare same values for different cars.
In this case E400 is 1745 (1820 = 68kg driver + 7kg baggage + 1745kg), so the difference is more realist 85kg not 160kg. Or 1735kg vs 1820kg according to the EU standard.

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M550i xDrive 0-100 in 4.0s!!!!

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Looks nice, but I'm not a fan of the rear, especially the tail lights.

But it kinda looks better on this video:

The gap between hood and kidneys looks awful in that video (here). Almost like the hood isn't completely closed.
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Thanks for the clarification Paul.
It's just important to compare same values for different cars.
In this case E400 is 1745 (1820 = 68kg driver + 7kg baggage), so the difference is more realist 85kg not 160kg. Or 1735kg vs 1820kg according to the EU standard.

P.S
M550i xDrive 0-100 in 4.0s!!!!
Hi.

The Germans use both DIN and EU weights in their specs... At the German MB site they provide the EU weight (with 68kg driver and 7 kg luggage), which I only just found out in the fine print. The E400 4Matic weighs 1820kg! so if you compare to the 540i Xdrive, which is 1735kg (EU), you're right, the difference is 85kg... My bad!
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Where did the laser headlights go?
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What do you think, is there going to be a Performance and Sound kit for 540i?
I'm worried that they are not going to release it order not to cannibalize M550i, but with this kit 540i would be a sweet spot in Europe. Very close performance to the M550i, reasonable taxes and insurance in Europe, lower depreciation, lower running costs...

This is basically my idea, to take 540i xDrive and get P&S kit, but I'm afraid not to be let down by BMW
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Where did the laser headlights go?
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I don't like the headlight connecting the grill at all bmw new 5 looking like smaller 7, just like audi no point getting anything but A3 besides TT they just look like bigger A3. both f10 and g30 suck with disconnected driving dynamic too much lexus might as well get a lexus bmw is losing there magic, unless they have that back i'm keeping my e92 e28 and e84
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M5.
Wel,l with the F10 the 535d went from 299 to 313hp and got the full black panel display - within a few months. I can only assume there will be some revisions on the G30 in an early stage as well.
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More interesting G30 available in Germany: the 530e iPerformance Hybrid.

BMW 530e iPerformance:
Inline 4 turbo Electric motor BMW eDrive (Plug-in-Hybrid),
Displacement: 1.998 cm3.
Power: 185 kW/252 PS (or 248 hp) from 4.460 rpm to 6.500 rpm. Maximum torque: 420Nm from 1.450rpm to 4.000rpm.
8-speed Automatic Steptronic.
0–100 km/h: 6,2 s.
Electric Range: 45 km* or 28 miles
Combined gas mileage (EU specs): 2,0 l/100 km* 117.8mpg.
Combined CO2-Emissions: 46 g/km.

Note that the batteries are located low and in front of the rear axle, which benefits mass centralization and makes for a lower center of gravity.
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This car is simply stunning. Still deciding whether to go for the 540i or the M550i
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I think cars like this is hard to give the right appearance on photo and video - they look awesome in the flesh
I think it looks great in pictures too
I think so too, but I think they have a drop dead gorgeous presence in the flesh
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