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      05-16-2017, 06:32 PM   #1
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F90 M5 Prototype 1st drives compilation!

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UPDATE - 23/05: Autocar video. Note that Timo Glock, BMW's racing driver had nothing to do with the development of the M5 as per the previous video from BMW...

Note that these are development prototypes that don't have finalised specs as some pics show headlights that are not production (round led instead of hexagonal).

Some Specs:

- Revised S63 twin-turbo 4.4-liter V-8 with direct injection and variable valve timing with over 600hp (unofficially north of 615 hp) and 516 lbft @ 1500 rpm. Still with speaker-enhanced sound in the cabin.

- 3-mode MxDrive AWD system with 4WD, 4WD Sport and 2WD.

- 8-Speed ZF automatic with fast locking torque converter and with Sport, Sport+, and full manual mode: no upshifts at redline.

- Michelin Pilot Sport 4S tires: 275/35ZR-20 front and 285/35ZR-20 rear

- Weight: about 4200 lbs or 1800kg. AWD system adds about 140 lbs to the car or 63.5kg.

- 0-60 in less than 3.5 secs

1st Drives:

In English:

Car and Driver (US): http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...e-drive-review

Motor Trend (US): http://www.motortrend.com/cars/bmw/m...-drive-review/

The Globe and Mail (CDN): http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe...ticle35004260/

Wheels (AUS): https://www.wheelsmag.com.au/reviews...ototype-review

Auto Express (UK): http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/bmw/5-s...ototype-review

EVO (UK): http://www.evo.co.uk/bmw/m5/19370/20...wo-cars-in-one

Autocar (UK): https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/n...ur-wheel-drive

What Car (UK): https://www.whatcar.com/news/bmw-m5-review-2017/

Motoring (Aus): http://www.motoring.com.au/bmw-m5-2018-review-107188/

Road and Track (US): http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars...-drive-review/


In German:

Focus: http://www.focus.de/auto/fahrbericht...d_7140943.html

Auto Bild: http://www.autobild.de/artikel/bmw-m...7-6741301.html


In Dutch:

Autogids: https://www.autogids.be/autotests/ee...prototype.html


In French:

Moniteur Automobile: https://www.moniteurautomobile.be/es...-m5-proto.html



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Pretty much the final car save for some details... Render Tread: http://g30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1323081

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Videos (From BMW):







Timo Glock Driving the M5 for the 1st time:




From Auto Bild:


Auto Motor und Sport:
http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/v...-12033734.html

Complete Car:


Autocar:
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Crap! So much reading. So little time! Thank you!!

Edit: Fuck, seriously?! 220lbs lighter than the F10 M5? I now eat humble pie.
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wow no manual trans? with that being said, im out.
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Sounds interesting. Although car and drivers comment that the steering feel was less then the panamera was a bit disheartening. Overall if it is an improvement over the f10 then welcome news.
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wow no manual trans? with that being said, im out.
Good bye
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wow no manual trans? with that being said, im out.
Sorry, most buyers are businessman who make bank. No need for manual for less than 1% of sales. I'm bummed too but that's just business economics 101
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Sounds interesting. Although car and drivers comment that the steering feel was less then the panamera was a bit disheartening
Could care less what those clowns say.
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Relax, a manual version will probably exist if the US market petitions strongly enough for it like the e60 M5
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My favorite M5 would have to be the E60 M5... v10,SMGII and, size of the car.
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I was expecting more torque since awd drastically increases traction. Basically it's a f10 m5 zcp with 15 more hp , awd and slightly better handling. Oh and loss of dct...
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No way.

The system was designed as a piece. No way that they are going to be able to have that type of coordination between the diffs and AWD with a manual in there.
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So DCT is no more ?
Finally BMW you listened!!!

I'm just waiting for the M4 and X4M version with M xDrive!

BMWs automatic transmissions are amazing, but still I want the DCT transmission option, I want to be able to downshift. As someone who only ever owned stick shifts and rides a gas powered motorcycle being able to downshift and not just relying on your brakes to slow down is critical I feel. But with New York traffic popping it in to Automatic mode is wonderful I must admit. As a driver I want to stay in tuned with the car, driving automatics I get distracted and I'm sure I'm not the only one. I could care less about the M5, too big of a car for me and the guys that get these big cars I would presume don't really need the shifting option anyway. But I do care about the new technology and in the M4 and M3 DCT I feel that's it's necessary and wanted.

M xDrive

And the rear wheel drive guys which I was my whole life until now owning an xDrive model and being able to drive it in the snow with sport tires and still be able to make it home safely means a lot. Now we all get the best of both worlds at a push of a button, how genius! Took long enough...
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Crap! So much reading. So little time! Thank you!!

Edit: Fuck, seriously?! 220lbs lighter than the F10 M5? I now eat humble pie.
One of these days , the 2 series will go on a diet.
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So DCT is no more ?
Finally BMW you listened!!! I'm just waiting for the M4 version.

BMWs automatic transmissions are amazing, but still I want the DCT transmission option, I want to be able to downshift. As someone who only ever owned stick shifts being able to downshift and not just to rely on your brakes to slow down is critical I feel. But with New York traffic popping it in automatic mode is wonderful I must admit. As a driver I want to stay in tune with the car, driving automatics I get distracted and I'm sure I'm not the only one. I could care less about the M5 too big of a car for me i'm probably the guys you got it don't need the shifting option I would presume. But the M4 and M3 it's necessary.

M xDrive
Why can't u downshift ZF 8 speed sport auto? I know it is not as aggressive as a dct in term of roughness.
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Wink I am really looking forward to this car...

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I don't care about the manual. Much prefer DCT any day. I literally would not buy a manual car ever again. I hope the new slushbox in this M5 is at least as good or better than the DCT in the F10 because that is a high bar. I know the Vette's slushy is supposed to be spectacular and better than any DCT out there - so they say. If they can get them that fast and good I'm on board.

Happy to see the weight loss and I am excited and positive on the AWD setup they have on the new M5. Looks like a winner so far

I want to see them bring all the bells, whistles and tech from the current 5 range into the M's. I know sometimes certain things they don't offer on the M's.
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I don't care about the manual. Much prefer DCT any day. I literally would not buy a manual car ever again. I hope the new slushbox in this M5 is at least as good or better than the DCT in the F10 because that is a high bar. I know the Vette's slushy is supposed to be spectacular and better than any DCT out there - so they say. If they can get them that fast and good I'm on board.

Happy to see the weight loss and I am excited and positive on the AWD setup they have on the new M5. Looks like a winner so far

I want to see them bring all the bells, whistles and tech from the current 5 range into the M's. I know sometimes certain things they don't offer on the M's.
lol the Z06 auto better than a dct?


hahahahahahahahah

wait


hahahahahahahahaha


Be my guest and do a 2 to 3 gear downshift in that garbage and let us know how it goes.
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