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      12-03-2017, 07:35 PM   #1
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F90 M5: The first reviews are in!

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Here you go, will be updated with more when they come...

In short:

Pros: Extraordinary performance and grip, Great and playful chassis - even in 2WD, Comfortable, Lots of customisable settings, Beautiful interior.

Cons: Engine Character (VS E63), Artificial exhaust sound, No steering feel (a bummer), too many settings (too complicated).


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Car and Driver: https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...t-drive-review

Drive (Australia): https://www.drive.com.au/new-car-rev...ew-116563.html

Autoblog: https://www.autoblog.com/2017/12/05/...-drive-review/

Jalopnik: https://jalopnik.com/2018-bmw-m5-mak...awd-1821018158

The Drive: http://www.thedrive.com/new-cars/166...he-600-hp-club


Autocar UK: https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review...m5-2018-review




Top Gear: https://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/...ct/first-drive

Daily Mail UK: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-Portugal.html

Motor Report: https://www.themotorreport.com.au/ca...ry-116538.html

GT Spirit: http://gtspirit.com/2017/12/04/2018-bmw-m5-review/

Motoring Reasearch: https://www.motoringresearch.com/car...0-first-drive/

Car Buzz: http://www.carbuzz.com/news/2017/12/...n-One-7742268/

Car Throttle: https://www.carthrottle.com/post/201...u-look-a-hero/


Auto Express: http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/bmw/5-s...m5-2018-review



Autogefuhl: As usual very detailed review



Motor1: https://www.motor1.com/reviews/22329...5-first-drive/

CAR UK: http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-rev...5-2018-review/

EVO UK: http://www.evo.co.uk/bmw/m5/20439/ne...per-saloon-bar

What Car UK: https://www.whatcar.com/bmw/m5/saloon/review/

Motoring Australia: https://www.motoring.com.au/bmw-m5-2018-review-110070/

New York Daily News: http://www.nydailynews.com/autos/lat...icle-1.3674853

Piston Heads: https://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-...--driven/37152

Irish Times: https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-...nism-1.3312243

Car Advice Australia: http://www.caradvice.com.au/606172/2018-bmw-m5-review/

Auto NDTV: https://auto.ndtv.com/reviews/new-6t...review-1783465

Driving Canada: http://driving.ca/bmw/m5/reviews/roa...ve-2018-bmw-m5

Auto Evolution: https://www.autoevolution.com/news/i...er-122074.html

Auto Guide: http://www.autoguide.com/manufacture...t-drive-review

NY Daily News: http://www.nydailynews.com/autos/lat...icle-1.3674853

Autoweek: http://autoweek.com/article/car-revi...e-not-all-time

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Nice!! I was just about to post that the reviews were up!
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I think the steering complaints and sound will be corrected with the CS and updated... higher performance versions


Side Note: For all those complaining about the exhaust I wonder if this is the upgraded or stock. It actually doesn't sound bad at all. Awesome find CarbonFibre

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I will stand by my previous comment feedback can and will be added( Its all computer programming) ,unfortunate the 1st buyers will get the shaft. Just as the iterations of the F80 have gotten better.

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Beautiful Car, I wish that they would cut it out with the piped in exhaust noise though. Test drove a M550 x drive and the exhaust was horrendous. If I am going to drop 120k on a car I want it to sound properly mean.
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YESSSSSSSSSSS!!! Thanks for sharing!!!!!
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I think the steering complaints and sound will be corrected with the CS and updated... higher performance versions
I don't think steering will be fixed and exhaust is fixable at all. Thru F80/82/87 revisions, BMW already know how to make electronic steering a little better. M5 being what it is now is BMW's intention.
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Wait until e63s vs m5. Grab your popcorns. Most boring M5 i have ever seen.
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I think the steering complaints and sound will be corrected with the CS and updated... higher performance versions
I don't think steering will be fixed and exhaust is fixable at all. Thru F80/82/87 revisions, BMW already know how to make electronic steering a little better. M5 is what it is now is BMW's intention.
They are saving for the comp pack. Theres the garbage version and the real m5, which is the comp pack. I don't know why they even bother releasing this. Brand image is definitely something they don't care so much.
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Beautiful Car, I wish that they would cut it out with the piped in exhaust noise though. Test drove a M550 x drive and the exhaust was horrendous. If I am going to drop 120k on a car I want it to sound properly mean.
E 63 does the same now.
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In short:

Pros: Extraordinary performance and grip, Great and playful chassis - even in 2WD, Comfortable, Lots of customisable settings, Beautiful interior.

Cons: Engine Character (VS E63), Artificial exhaust sound, No steering feel (a bummer), too many settings (too complicated).
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I don't think steering will be fixed and exhaust is fixable at all. Thru F80/82/87 revisions, BMW already know how to make electronic steering a little better. M5 being what it is now is BMW's intention.
Your forgetting the steering is all coding. No reason it won't be fixed, its marketing 101. The reason why they will have the CP, CS or whatever upgraded versions.

If Porsche can do EPS correctly, no reason why BMW can't. I bet you 20 USD that as the editions come out the car will improve.

The last and current gen M5, M3 its always been the CP is how it should have come from the factory.

Now out with the CP please, quickly so you can take my money.
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I think the steering complaints and sound will be corrected with the CS and updated... higher performance versions
That's ridiculous, the car should already have great steering and sound. BMW needs to start doing things right the first time
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That's ridiculous, the car should already have great steering and sound. BMW needs to start doing things right the first time
Agreed 100%. The more I see this bullshit the more I understand people shifting to other brands. The last M5 I really loved was the E60. The F10 was a boat and this one is a computer on steroids.
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It's on purpose that I put these comments... Some (the older demographics) will find the car over complicated. The gadget lovers will love it...
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That's ridiculous, the car should already have great steering and sound. BMW needs to start doing things right the first time
How's the M2 steering compare ? I'm just not sure it's BMWs intention to do steering different than what's given here. Which if the case is probably a bummer. It was a big complaint of mine on the M4.
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I think the steering complaints and sound will be corrected with the CS and updated... higher performance versions
That's ridiculous, the car should already have great steering and sound. BMW needs to start doing things right the first time
How's the M2 steering compare ? I'm just not sure it's BMWs intention to do steering different than what's given here. Which if the case is probably a bummer. It was a big complaint of mine on the M4.
I don't have an M2, I have a 135i. The 135i has fantastic steering
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Sounds like they have done a cut and paste job of the initial F8X reviews.


Nobody likes the sonic enhancement. All car journos want 8 cylinders. Blah. Blah. Blah.

But oh yeah it's also a fantastic car that drives superbly.

It would be nice if the initial reviewing cadre could get past the car they used to love at some other time (nostalgia) and learn to love the car that is there.
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Even after the reviews, there is still nothing about this car that makes me want it. It just seems so boring. Don't get me wrong, the interior is beautiful but the tech is essentially the same as every other car in its price range so there is nothing special about that either. The S63 just feels like old hat to me. Even with my tuned F10 it never really had that special character and I had no trouble parting with it.

Sadly, I'm still waiting for something from the M divison that makes me feel the way I used to in my past M cars. I remember being so excited about what was coming next. Now I find myself looking for reasons why to stay with the brand. Maybe the M2 is as good as it gets now for that special feeling.
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I don't think steering will be fixed and exhaust is fixable at all. Thru F80/82/87 revisions, BMW already know how to make electronic steering a little better. M5 being what it is now is BMW's intention.
Your forgetting the steering is all coding. No reason it won't be fixed, its marketing 101. The reason why they will have the CP, CS or whatever upgraded versions.

If Porsche can do EPS correctly, no reason why BMW can't. I bet you 20 USD that as the editions come out the car will improve.

The last and current gen M5, M3 its always been the CP is how it should have come from the factory.

Now out with the CP please, quickly so you can take my money.
Why sandbag the higher volume model for a lower volume, marginally higher margin model?

I don't buy this.
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