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Originally Posted by Paul-Bracq-BMW
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Originally Posted by RPiM5
Two things I really cared about for the G30 were the new physical size dimensions and the curb weight.
Let's see G30 is 1.2" longer, 0.3" wider, and 0.6" taller than the F10. That's a big increase in size. Good for the back seat passengers for sure, as even the wheel base has been increased by 0.2" but I am not looking for a bigger car than the F10. 1.2" increase in length is significant as well as the 0.6" increase in height. There's just no hiding the fact that the G30 is a BIG car. How big you might be wondering, well here are some comparisons
G30 5-Series:
- Length: 194.6"
- Height: 58.2"
- Width: 73.5"
F01 7-Series (Standard Wheel Base Version):
- Length: 199.7"
- Height: 58.2"
- Width: 74.9"
E65 7-Series (Standard Wheel Base Version):
- Length: 198.4"
- Height: 58.7"
- Width: 74.9"
2017 W213 Mecedes E-Class:
- Length: 193.8"
- Height: 57.8"
- Width: 72.9"
Second, the weight comparison.
Based off of the info on BMWUSA.com, the F10 535i has a U.S. curb weight of 3,957lbs. While according to today's info the G30 540i has a U.S. curb weight of 3,847lbs. This corresponds to a 110lbs weight reduction from two directly comparable models, the BMW 535i and 540i. This is a pretty good reduction in weight, but I was hoping for more honestly. However based on this information I just don't see how ///M Division is going to be able to knock off more than another 100lbs for the next M5. Losing weight is hard, and with all of this new tech inside of the 5-Series that's going to make it even harder for the next M5 to drop pounds. Owing to this new information today, I predict that we won't see any more than a 250lbs weight drop from the F10 M5 to the F90 (G80) M5. Which by the way the 2016 Cadillac CTS-V already weighs 250lbs less than the F10 M5 today. Granted the CTS-V doesn't have a lot of the fancy tech that BMW has though.
http://www.bmwusa.com/Standard/Conte...fications.aspx
In the end, I like the new G30 5-Series, but I was hoping for more progress in terms of weight reduction. I'm not sure if we're ever going to get there if they keep making the car bigger and adding more technological features, but hey thanks to Tesla and their self driving cars, it's what people want these days, and nobody seems to care that the Model S weighs over 4,900lbs. |
Let's compare some German weight data about the G30 VS the F10 just to have the same standard of measuring (Unladen DIN with 90% full tank and 75 kg driver)
F10 535i: 1685 kg or 3715 lbs. G30 540i: 1595 kg or 3516 lbs
Difference: 90 kg or 198 lbs.
F10 520d: 1620 kg or 3571lbs. G30 520d: 1540 kg or 3395 lbs
Difference: 80 kg or 176 lbs.
VS Mercedes Latest E Class:
Mercedes E 200D: (Unladen DIN with 90% full tank and 75 kg driver) 1680 kg or 3704 lbs. Heavier by a whopping 140 kg or 309 lbs!! And we're talking about cars that are released within months of each other!
Another weight comparo of the 5er and E class (equivalent models)
530i: 1540 kg or 3395 lbs. E300: 1655 kg or 3649 lbs. Difference: 115 kg or 254 lbs.
540i X Drive (Mercedes only has 4matic for this category): 1660 kg or 3660 lbs. E 400 4Matic: 1820 kg or 4012 lbs. Difference: 160 kg or 353 lbs!!!
I can say just based on weight difference that the G30 will be a much better driving car than the E class!
VS Jaguar XF (made of Aluminium!!)
520d: 1540 kg or 3395 lbs. XF 2.0d: 1585 kg or 3494 lbs. Difference: 45 kg or 99 lbs.
540i: 1595 kg or 3516 lbs. XF 35t: 1710 kg or 3770 lbs. Difference: 115 kg or 254 lbs.
540i X Drive: 1660 kg or 3660 lbs. XF 35t AWD: 1760 kg or 3880 lbs. Difference 100 kg or 220 lbs.
The G30 is the leader in its class in low weight, at least until the new Audi A6 arrives... |
Isn't DIN without the 75 kg driver, cause the F10 520d is 1620 kg without driver.