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Originally Posted by eluded
Yeah Supra idea was nice in theory except it's a BMW. Probably not reliable like the all mighty MKIV. No manual and now for a few grand more you can get a mid engine corvette. Wtf is the world coming too??? And none of those cars can touch a Tesla in the quarter. Strange times indeed.
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There's a video on youtube that goes into detail about the joint venture between BMW and Toyota while developing the twins. It explicitly says that the Toyota technicians took the B58, stress tested every single component down to the nuts and bolts as well and any piece that did not meet Toyota reliability standards was sent back to BMW and replaced with something that did meet their standards. So as far as reliability goes, I'm sure it will do just fine in stock form. Although too soon to tell because not many high mileage B58 motors out there (of the O1 variant that's in these cars) I'm sure that even when mild tuned it will still maintain reliability.
Also I don't see many cross shopping a Tesla with these cars because of the raw feel that they give (even with an auto). Lower seating position, still a 2 door coupe, and RWD making <4s sprints to 60 makes for a unique driving experience. Even a model 3 without the performance model can't do <4s sprints and the performance model comes AWD standard which doesn't feel the same as a RWD car, even when not at the limit (came from a tuned/modified 240ix running 3.6s sprints)
The c8 though, even in base trim, comes with an mLSD (not the fancy eLSD of the Z51 package). To me, the c8 is the only other option besides a Supra/Z4 and even that comes down to quality of assembly and dealer experience, both of which Chevy has shown less than desirable in the past. Although quality of parts has improved, assembly still has it's moments. And enjoy the chevy cruze loaner (if you can even get a loaner during your service) that most chevy dealerships will provide for their customers who spent $60k+ on a vehicle. Most BMW dealerships (can't vouch for Toyota) will put you in something of equal or greater value for a service loaner. Oh and as made very apparent when I was trying to get the 8sp fixed under recall in my Colorado ZR2, chevy dealerships will fight you tooth and nail to weasel out of doing the repair (had to go in 3 times to try and get them to do the recall, third time I went to another dealer entirely and they finally did it). When I get my c8 (gonna be a few years since I wasn't patient enough to wait for the c8 debut and got a z4) I will perform all service myself just to avoid the dealer as much as possible.