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      12-16-2019, 07:19 PM   #1361
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Originally Posted by thebmw View Post
2019 Reliability Ratings:
https://www.jdpower.com/cars/ratings

GM finished 1st, Ford finished 2nd. This is despite the fact that Americans complain about American cars more than Japanese cars or European cars (long explanation behind psychology behind that behavior that I don't have time to get into). That doesn't mean we have to like the actual cars that these brands are producing, it just means that we can't make current statements about reliability based on historical shortcomings.

BTW, nice M2C!!
Part of the confusion is that 'quality' and 'reliability' are two different things.

The ford mustang has horrible panel gaps, but that doesn't mean it'll necessarily break down.

My old 350z had a cheap, junky interior with plastics that were hard and scratchy and a bunch of black paint that would peel off any time you touched it with a fingernail.

But it also pretty much didn't break through 13 years of ownership and close to 100K miles. And I drove the absolute crap out of that car, even beating on it on gravel roads from time to time.
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