Adaptive Drive

JMX2M35i · 02-15-2018, 03:00 AM

Hi Guys, My new 540i MS XDrive is here 1st March with "Adaptive Drive".
Do I need to press the Adaptive button ever time I use the car or is it on all the time?, also if i select sport does it turn off!!

Thanks in advance.

AP · 02-15-2018, 03:15 AM

Haven't got but assume it is on all the time.
The adaptive button is the driver profile so you select that in preference to comfort, ecopro sport or sport plus(or even ecopro individual or sport individual which are your customised versions of those modes)

Adaptive will tune the car based upon how you are driving , it also uses Satnav data as well so it knows there is a corner coming up as one example.

Bibbles · 02-15-2018, 04:20 AM

Yes you have to press it every time as far as I can tell. It's a little annoying as why would you spec it and then want to start the car in comfort mode every time. I'm hoping it's possible to change with some coding but I've not got that far yet. Normally I put it in adaptive and then change to sport+ when on a spirited drive. However since the MPPSK I'm mainly in Sport+ which is having a detrimental affect on my MPG!

AP · 02-15-2018, 07:26 AM

Adaptive drive is Vdc on steroids , that's my understanding and separate from driver profiles , one of which is called adaptive.

So adaptive drive is always on so that's the suspension system that keeps the car level around corners in simple terms.

Driver profiles is configuring steering engine and if you have either vdc or adaptive drive , the suspension.
Choosing adaptive means the car adapts on the go rather than choosing any predefined settings like eco pro or sport.

That's my understanding but happy to be corrected.

SteveinArizona · 02-15-2018, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Bibbles

Yes you have to press it every time as far as I can tell. It's a little annoying as why would you spec it and then want to start the car in comfort mode every time. I'm hoping it's possible to change with some coding but I've not got that far yet. Normally I put it in adaptive and then change to sport+ when on a spirited drive. However since the MPPSK I'm mainly in Sport+ which is having a detrimental affect on my MPG!

Yes...it is possible with coding. Almaretto did it for me.

Bibbles · 02-15-2018, 08:10 AM

Yes that's correct. I think there's another thread on here where highlandpete gives a full description on the differences between adaptive drive and vdc. I know the driver profiles are different, but if I've bought an option for the car to be adaptive I'd still like to be able to default to that on startup. Just seems like it's been missed off the options by BMW.

Bibbles · 02-15-2018, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveinArizona

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Originally Posted by Bibbles

Yes you have to press it every time as far as I can tell. It's a little annoying as why would you spec it and then want to start the car in comfort mode every time. I'm hoping it's possible to change with some coding but I've not got that far yet. Normally I put it in adaptive and then change to sport+ when on a spirited drive. However since the MPPSK I'm mainly in Sport+ which is having a detrimental affect on my MPG!

Yes...it is possible with coding. Almaretto did it for me.

That's good to know Steve, I'll get on the case with the coding.

SDRX · 02-15-2018, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by JOHNBMWM5

Hi Guys, My new 540i MS XDrive is here 1st March with "Adaptive Drive".
Do I need to press the Adaptive button ever time I use the car or is it on all the time?, also if i select sport does it turn off!!

Thanks in advance.

Section 8 of the technical reference manual covers these features but doesn't answer your question :-(

Knowing how BMWs work, I would have expected the the car to default to comfort mode every time you switch off. Hopefully Bmw have finally clocked that we don't want to keep having to do that, same for things like adaptive lights etc

One very useful thing is that in sport mode you customise transmission, dampers, steering, engine and seat back width adjustment individually!!

JMX2M35i · 02-15-2018, 08:45 AM

OK Guys thanks for the info, I need to press it on each time.

JMX2M35i · 02-15-2018, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Bibbles

Yes you have to press it every time as far as I can tell. It's a little annoying as why would you spec it and then want to start the car in comfort mode every time. I'm hoping it's possible to change with some coding but I've not got that far yet. Normally I put it in adaptive and then change to sport+ when on a spirited drive. However since the MPPSK I'm mainly in Sport+ which is having a detrimental affect on my MPG!

Hi Chris, when you change too Sport+ from Adaptive does that turn adaptive off or would it remain on, still a bit confused, as IF it adapts to driving style how can we drive in Sport+ with it on.

Canuck99 · 02-15-2018, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by JOHNBMWM5

... when you change too Sport+ from Adaptive does that turn adaptive off or would it remain on...

Yes, it turns Adaptive off. Adaptive is a control profile just as comfort, eco pro, sport,... are. Think of these as computer programs that control various parts of the car in specific ways. VDC is just one of the hardware modules that get's controlled, if available. VDC is still doing things in control profiles other than adaptive so it's not like we wasted our money....

JMX2M35i · 02-15-2018, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Canuck99

Yes, it turns Adaptive off. Adaptive is a control profile just as comfort, eco pro, sport,... are. Think of these as computer programs that control various parts of the car in specific ways. VDC is just one of the hardware modules that get's controlled, if available. VDC is still doing things in control profiles other than adaptive so it's not like we wasted our money....

Many thanks.

cerbera · 02-15-2018, 10:13 AM

Adaptive drive isn't the same as adaptive on the controls on the central console.

Adaptive drive is an option which adds active roll bars in addition to VDC, so the car exhibits no roll in corners at all. It is in operation all the time and works in conjunction with the variable dampers. It's very good....

The Adaptive setting in the central console allows the car to move from comfort thru to sport and back again based on the roads you are driving on...so the suspension matches the road type. It is similar to the predictive active suspension introduced on Rolls Royce a few years back.

You don't need to have adaptive drive to get the adaptive setting on the central console.

On the 540 you can't have adaptive drive together with active steering, it's one or the other.

SDRX · 02-15-2018, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by JOHNBMWM5

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Originally Posted by Bibbles

Yes you have to press it every time as far as I can tell. It's a little annoying as why would you spec it and then want to start the car in comfort mode every time. I'm hoping it's possible to change with some coding but I've not got that far yet. Normally I put it in adaptive and then change to sport+ when on a spirited drive. However since the MPPSK I'm mainly in Sport+ which is having a detrimental affect on my MPG!

Hi Chris, when you change too Sport+ from Adaptive does that turn adaptive off or would it remain on, still a bit confused, as IF it adapts to driving style how can we drive in Sport+ with it on.

Yes sport plus will definitely switch it off

Adaptive mode is one of the "driving experience profiles" which uses the kafas camera and sat nav data to adjust various parameters including damper settings, transmission etc

Adaptive mode isn't just a damper setting, which is what many dealers are talking about.

JMX2M35i · 02-15-2018, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by SDRX

Yes sport plus will definitely switch it off

Adaptive mode is one of the "driving experience profiles" which uses the kafas camera and sat nav data to adjust various parameters including damper settings, transmission etc

Adaptive mode isn't just a damper setting, which is what many dealers are talking about.

Thanks.

HighlandPete · 02-15-2018, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by cerbera

Adaptive drive isn't the same as adaptive on the controls on the central console.

Adaptive drive is an option which adds active roll bars in addition to VDC, so the car exhibits no roll in corners at all. It is in operation all the time and works in conjunction with the variable dampers. It's very good....

The Adaptive setting in the central console allows the car to move from comfort thru to sport and back again based on the roads you are driving on...so the suspension matches the road type. It is similar to the predictive active suspension introduced on Rolls Royce a few years back.

You don't need to have adaptive drive to get the adaptive setting on the central console.

On the 540 you can't have adaptive drive together with active steering, it's one or the other.

^^^^

This.

There seems to be a lot of confusion on the Adaptive mode and Adaptive Drive. Adaptive Drive will be working 100% of the time, whatever mode you are in, you simply select what mode (personal combination) you want Adaptive Drive parameters to work in.

JMX2M35i · 02-15-2018, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by HighlandPete

^^^^

This.

There seems to be a lot of confusion on the Adaptive mode and Adaptive Drive. Adaptive Drive will be working 100% of the time, whatever mode you are in, you simply select what mode (personal combination) you want Adaptive Drive parameters to work in.

Now that explains it perfectly thanks Pete.

ZigmundUK · 02-15-2018, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by JOHNBMWM5

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Originally Posted by HighlandPete

^^^^

This.

There seems to be a lot of confusion on the Adaptive mode and Adaptive Drive. Adaptive Drive will be working 100% of the time, whatever mode you are in, you simply select what mode (personal combination) you want Adaptive Drive parameters to work in.

Now that explains it perfectly thanks Pete.

Haha. And nothing for cerbera?

SteveinArizona · 02-16-2018, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by SDRX

Yes sport plus will definitely switch it off

Adaptive mode is one of the "driving experience profiles" which uses the kafas camera and sat nav data to adjust various parameters including damper settings, transmission etc

Adaptive mode isn't just a damper setting, which is what many dealers are talking about.

While there is no "individual" adaptive mode, if one throws the gear shift to the left while in adaptive mode one gets a quasi individual setting as you will have the transmission in sport mode while the car is riding in adaptive mode otherwise.

AP · 02-16-2018, 08:20 AM

I'd personally just prefer something like the m5 has with a separate button for steering , gearbox, throttle mapping and suspension so you can set it up how you like.
Not prepared to pay for a m5 to get that though!

HighlandPete · 02-16-2018, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by AP

I'd personally just prefer something like the m5 has with a separate button for steering , gearbox, throttle mapping and suspension so you can set it up how you like.
Not prepared to pay for a m5 to get that though!

Not the same simplicity, but Sport Individual allows you to select/mix the options you want.

AP · 02-16-2018, 11:10 AM

Yes I should probably use that as my custom mode given I don't use the sport mode that much at present (tend to use adaptive plus moving the gear shift over for spurts if acceleration).
Has the added advantage of disabling ass as well.

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AP Major General 3614 Rep 5,854 Posts Drives: G30 M550 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	Haven't got but assume it is on all the time. The adaptive button is the driver profile so you select that in preference to comfort, ecopro sport or sport plus(or even ecopro individual or sport individual which are your customised versions of those modes) Adaptive will tune the car based upon how you are driving , it also uses Satnav data as well so it knows there is a corner coming up as one example.
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Bibbles Banned 769 Rep 1,228 Posts Drives: G31 540i MPPSK Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Herts iTrader: (0)	Yes you have to press it every time as far as I can tell. It's a little annoying as why would you spec it and then want to start the car in comfort mode every time. I'm hoping it's possible to change with some coding but I've not got that far yet. Normally I put it in adaptive and then change to sport+ when on a spirited drive. However since the MPPSK I'm mainly in Sport+ which is having a detrimental affect on my MPG!
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AP Major General 3614 Rep 5,854 Posts Drives: G30 M550 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	Adaptive drive is Vdc on steroids , that's my understanding and separate from driver profiles , one of which is called adaptive. So adaptive drive is always on so that's the suspension system that keeps the car level around corners in simple terms. Driver profiles is configuring steering engine and if you have either vdc or adaptive drive , the suspension. Choosing adaptive means the car adapts on the go rather than choosing any predefined settings like eco pro or sport. That's my understanding but happy to be corrected.
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Bibbles Banned 769 Rep 1,228 Posts Drives: G31 540i MPPSK Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Herts iTrader: (0)	Yes that's correct. I think there's another thread on here where highlandpete gives a full description on the differences between adaptive drive and vdc. I know the driver profiles are different, but if I've bought an option for the car to be adaptive I'd still like to be able to default to that on startup. Just seems like it's been missed off the options by BMW.
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JMX2M35i Live for today tomorrow never comes 2149 Rep 9,649 Posts Drives: 2025 X2M35i Skyscraper Grey Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	OK Guys thanks for the info, I need to press it on each time. __________________ Live for now, life is too short. 2023 LCI M5 Marina Bay Blue/ Smoked White Leather, the very last of the F90 M5.
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cerbera Private 31 Rep 52 Posts Drives: 540i xdrive M Sport Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	Adaptive drive isn't the same as adaptive on the controls on the central console. Adaptive drive is an option which adds active roll bars in addition to VDC, so the car exhibits no roll in corners at all. It is in operation all the time and works in conjunction with the variable dampers. It's very good.... The Adaptive setting in the central console allows the car to move from comfort thru to sport and back again based on the roads you are driving on...so the suspension matches the road type. It is similar to the predictive active suspension introduced on Rolls Royce a few years back. You don't need to have adaptive drive to get the adaptive setting on the central console. On the 540 you can't have adaptive drive together with active steering, it's one or the other. __________________ G30 540i xdrive msport retired :F10 535d msport 2014 : F10 535d mSport 2010:E60 535d mSport 2006: E60 535d mSport 2004:E39 530i 2001:E39 528i 1997
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AP Major General 3614 Rep 5,854 Posts Drives: G30 M550 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	I'd personally just prefer something like the m5 has with a separate button for steering , gearbox, throttle mapping and suspension so you can set it up how you like. Not prepared to pay for a m5 to get that though!
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AP Major General 3614 Rep 5,854 Posts Drives: G30 M550 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	Yes I should probably use that as my custom mode given I don't use the sport mode that much at present (tend to use adaptive plus moving the gear shift over for spurts if acceleration). Has the added advantage of disabling ass as well.
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