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BimmerLIFE Article on B&W vs. HK
Very interesting review of these two systems in the latest BimmerLIFE. I found it to be spot on, especially the comments on how B&W excels at all volumes, especially low, vs. HK needing to be cranked up to perform. Just sharing.
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As mentioned in the article, the real important thing is to use a cable if you're listening to music from your phone. I was using BT on my high end Android on the B&W and thought it sounded good, then for shits and giggles I listened via cable with an iPhone and the difference was night and day. Only listen to music now via cable and iPhone. Still have my Android linked for telephony via BT- couldn't find a solution that would let me use a cable on Android with my streaming service (Apple Music).
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I have lossless files on a USB stick for when I want to really up the ante. B&W really blows you away even more with uncompressed direct digital wired or USB content. I'd say I stream more than anything though. Apple CarPlay is just too convenient. Click like on a song on the Peloton and it's synced to a Spotify or Apple Music playlist. It's just too easy.
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But AirPlay 2 is not part of Apple CarPlay technology. So yes, on your new home audio system that has Airplay 2, you can stream uncompressed music. Not in a car, it's Bluetooth/ wifi handoff.
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If I want to use a cable is the socket in the phone charging tray I use? |
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The only downside is that you have to shut off Apple CarPlay to be able to use your iPhone as a USB device.
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To use an iPhone as a music store you would need the 'camera adapter' device to force it to output a digital file, rather than going through its own dac first. They are not the cheapest thing, difficult to find, and fairly fragile IMO..
At least that's the case with the lightning type, I have no experience yet of the new USB C type of input/output.on an iPhone |
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A better one for where artists get paid correctly, ( my favourite,) but not exactly 'mainstream' :- https://bandcamp.com |
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Although Streaming services, both Apple Music and Tidal offer high resolution streaming, it just doesn't produce high resolution over Carplay. If you have or sign up for these services and plug your phone into the USB, it should produce high resolution audio. But as I referenced, you will have to shut off Apple Carplay. You also don't need a special cable, just a lightening cable to the USB port.
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Quick couple of points - I mentioned the 'camera cable' as it allows music files from an iphone to be sent directly out to the car, should you have music on there you want to hear having been decoded by the car instad of the phone.
As Joe says, not required for streaming. No matter what streaming services claim, there output is going to be 'throttled' when compared with a 'local' stored file. That may change at some stage. Downloading music - please, do yourself a favour and stick with FLAC. WAV is fine, right up until you try changing it's location (a discussion beyond this thread) Just my 2cents. |
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I am in Apple Carplay 99% of the time and how it interfaces with iDrive is just clunky. I wish you could plug the phone in and play higher bit rate streams but stay in Apple Carplay. Having to shut off Apple Carplay to make your phone a USB device is a non-starter. I like Apple Carplay, but I deal with it's integration shortfalls. I have never used the BMW Navigation in my car.
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Im not going to be able to do the miles to let me ever get to the end of my music files (fortunately or unfortunately!) and I listen to what a lot probably would never give a second listen being honest.
I deal with music and HiFi on a daily basis, a simply huge (I think 4TB) music store, and listen probably 6-8 hrs a day. So for my commutes several playlists will be fine, and for the occasional long drive / holiday, I have a couple of sticks - one for my music only, and another that my wife will also be happy to have playing as well. I need threads like this as Im still trying to get my head around how the car will play what I want it to, when, if it ever, turns up! On a side note, I really wish we could up grade the DAC and amp along with the speakers, but that aint ever going to happen I guess. |
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On my Samsung S10+, music and other files transfer from the charging cable to the car easily. I can even play ringtones and other crap. its pretty funny.
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They play by some very weird rules on the music side of things. I personally do not use them at all for music. Others simply adore it - and I understand why. It simply does not work for me. Now the iPhone as a device - well, I love that.. |
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