[cjacky]

In order upgrade to idrive 5/6 from a 4 what would I need ? I notice that I would need to replace the unit. Will it be plug and play or coding would be needed?

[justanurse]

Originally Posted by cjacky

In order upgrade to idrive 5/6 from a 4 what would I need ? I notice that I would need to replace the unit. Will it be plug and play or coding would be needed?

Someone correct if wrong but I do believe coding is necessary to get it completely working. Other than that i think you also need the ATM module because it doesn't just use the regular gps

https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1356549

[cjacky]

Originally Posted by midnightf30

Someone correct if wrong but I do believe coding is necessary to get it completely working. Other than that i think you also need the ATM module because it doesn't just use the regular gps

https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1356549

Is there a specific unit I would have to buy or just the ones that say idrive 5/6

[justanurse]

Originally Posted by cjacky

Is there a specific unit I would have to buy or just the ones that say idrive 5/6

You've got it right but what does your car currently have and what year is it

This is just an example btw

[cjacky]

Originally Posted by midnightf30

You've got it right but what does your car currently have and what year is it

This is just an example btw

I'm not sure what it has right now I can't get the idrive to pull the version info up but it's 2014

[justanurse]

I was just wondering but it's it's NBT from factory with the bigger touch controller/handwriting it should already have kcan2

[cjacky]

Originally Posted by midnightf30

I was just wondering but it's it's NBT from factory with the bigger touch controller/handwriting it should already have kcan2

I have the bigger screen and the controller. Mine comes with nav

[justanurse]

Originally Posted by cjacky

I have the bigger screen and the controller. Mine comes with nav

Yea you should be good then, I'd hit up some more people to double check but I did a nbt retrofit BUT I did research in evo too since it was an option, so should be atm /nbt evo for sure but I'm unsure of the other supporting things you need for it I'm assuming the controller will work

[cjacky]

Originally Posted by midnightf30

Yea you should be good then, I'd hit up some more people to double check but I did a nbt retrofit BUT I did research in evo too since it was an option, so should be atm /nbt evo for sure but I'm unsure of the other supporting things you need for it I'm assuming the controller will work

Would this one work and for apple CarPlay would I need something to attach to it to work?

[justanurse]

I believe that it's necessary to have a legit FSC code for apple car play and you should really check the vin of those units to see what option codes that car came with, I would personally look into posting in one of the BIGGER threads of people that have ACTUALLY done the retrofit because I did a NBT retrofit, not a NBT EVO retrofit. For my retrofit my only option if I want connected drive, apps, and such is to retrofit a TCB unit in the trunk which has a sim card and still has a active subscription to connected drive, which i would then have to write the vin of that unit to my nbt(with emulator) and I'm personally not even sure if that would work because I have not done it yet. I do not know what is necessary to for the NBT EVO to receive service because I don't know where the sim/if it even has a sim to begin with because I do not know if they updated that technology also. See look at all those I dont knows LOL; go double back with a legit guide thread or shawn/steve/whoever else might have better insight.


Good luck

[EvenKeel]

Reach out to Steve @ Codemybimmer. I have a 2014 like you; equipped with NBT. Per Steve, going to ID5/6 means you'll lose all telematics (Real Time traffic, Connected Drive app to lock/unlock your car etc), and, you'll need a new screen.

Think hard and a do a lot more research before you go out and just buy a new headunit.

[cjacky]

Originally Posted by EvenKeel

Reach out to Steve @ Codemybimmer. I have a 2014 like you; equipped with NBT. Per Steve, going to ID5/6 means you'll lose all telematics (Real Time traffic, Connected Drive app to lock/unlock your car etc), and, you'll need a new screen.

Think hard and a do a lot more research before you go out and just buy a new headunit.

I have the 8.8" screen right now, would I still have to upgrade it? I contacted the eBay seller and he said all I'll need is to code it and that'll be it

[EvenKeel]

I too have the 8.8" screen.

Send Steve at Codemybimmer a private message. You'll get clarity on your queries and save yourself a LOT of hassle long term.

What the eBay seller is telling you doesn't sound correct. He's likely motivated to move his product. Probably won't give a rats ass once he has your money.

Can someone please link Steve's username to this thread; I don't know how to.

[Mashman]

Originally Posted by cjacky

I have the 8.8" screen right now, would I still have to upgrade it? I contacted the eBay seller and he said all I'll need is to code it and that'll be it

No, your old screen will work with evo. The screen with NBT is apix1, early evos units used apix1 and then switched to apix2. The evo unit you buy will most likely be apix2, but it can be coded to apix1. You may (most likely will) need to add a voltage regulator on the power connector, but you can get one on Amazon. For less than 20 bucks.

There are 3 values you need to code to switch between apix1 and apix2, it's very easy.

[steve@codemybimmer]

Originally Posted by Mashman

No, your old screen will work with evo. The screen with NBT is apix1, early evos units used apix1 and then switched to apix2. The evo unit you buy will most likely be apix2, but it can be coded to apix1. You may (most likely will) need to add a voltage regulator on the power connector, but you can get one on Amazon. For less than 20 bucks.

There are 3 values you need to code to switch between apix1 and apix2, it's very easy.

I really would not recommend this solution as the display quality will look very fuzzy compared to having a full fledged ID5/ID6 screen.

[Mashman]

Check out this thread - https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bim...10289866&amp=1

This is the voltage regulator that I used. https://www.amazon.com/Aweking-Water...-PL&ref=plSrch

[Mashman]

Originally Posted by steve@codemybimmer

I really would not recommend this solution as the display quality will look very fuzzy compared to having a full fledged ID5/ID6 screen.

I've been using my apix1 NBT screen for 2 years with my NBT2 evo unit for 2 years with PERFECT clarity and zero issues. Are you saying a 1280×480 resolution on an 8x8 screen is "fuzzy"?

There is absolutely no reason for anyone capable of splicing 2 wires together, and capable of simple esys coding to switch out a perfectly good apix1 screen for an apix2 screen. By "fuzzy" you mean that apix2 is capable of higher resolutions. Switching to evo does not make the NBT screen perform at a lesser ability, it will perform at the same level as it did with NBT.

Anyone with nbt wanting to upgrade to evo, who does not find their screen fuzzy, can easily reuse their screen with evo, by adding a 12v to 9v voltage regulator, and coding a few variables.

[Mashman]

Originally Posted by steve@codemybimmer

I really would not recommend this solution as the display quality will look very fuzzy compared to having a full fledged ID5/ID6 screen.

I understand that there is a real need for professional coders, not everyone has the expertise to code their own vehicles, or the time that it takes to learn how. Many people SHOULD NOT go the DIY route, and should avail themselves of those who truly know what they are doing. Again I say I completely understand that.

The above post crosses the line. The above post is beyond deceptive, it is borderline BS. The poster who questioned reusing their apix1 screen with an evo unit appeared fine with the requirement of coding their unit, so why imply their screen will look fuzzy if they reuse it? It's the same screen, it will perform at the same level. Yes apix2 are capable of higher resolutions, but in no way will an apix1 look fuzzy.

I understand your need to make money, and I understand you provide a very valuable service, but it's just not right to post intentionally deceptive information in the hope of making a sale.

[steve@codemybimmer]

Originally Posted by Mashman

I understand that there is a real need for professional coders, not everyone has the expertise to code their own vehicles, or the time that it takes to learn how. Many people SHOULD NOT go the DIY route, and should avail themselves of those who truly know what they are doing. Again I say I completely understand that.

The above post crosses the line. The above post is beyond deceptive, it is borderline BS. The poster who questioned reusing their apix1 screen with an evo unit appeared fine with the requirement of coding their unit, so why imply their screen will look fuzzy if they reuse it? It's the same screen, it will perform at the same level. Yes apix2 are capable of higher resolutions, but in no way will an apix1 look fuzzy.

I understand your need to make money, and I understand you provide a very valuable service, but it's just not right to post intentionally deceptive information in the hope of making a sale.

Please don't take my last post as deceptive as I never mentioned that it would not work. We simply just don't recommend this method as the display quality would not be on par with a NBT EVO screen and in addition, this adds for another component to potentially fail.

There are actually two types of APIX1 screens - those that are meant for the NBT HU and those that are for ID4 NBT EVO HU. The latter will work with the coding changes you mentioned and will not require a voltage regulator. The display quality will also be about the same as a APIX2 screen. If you had a chance to look at a NBT 8.8" screen and a 8.8" NBT EVO screen, you will notice that the latter has much better color depth and is more crisp.

We've used voltage converters in the past and we really don't prefer to use those as this would give the customer another component that could potentially fail.

In a profitability standpoint, it would actually be better using the existing NBT screen with the voltage converter as NBT EVO screens are very difficult to source and this would help us move units faster. Keep in mind though, that we uphold a very high standard as our customers would expect nothing less than that.