[KRS_SN]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=w0OPOSf1...SIkaIECMiOmarE

[Bianchi Dave]

Joe released this comparison vid a couple of days ago too, which is more in depth -

https://youtu.be/CKdphXpgHPk

Other than willy waving (and brownie points for BMW), I always think these drag races Mat does are a bit pointless. Tells us nothing about how a car actually drives. This was highlighted a week or two back when a Tesla Model X destroyed a Urus, X5M and Cayenne iirc. Admittedly I've never driven any of them (and probably never will) but I know which I'd rather own, and its not the Tesla

I would happily give a kidney for a G81, but the RS6 just looks so damn good for a big estate car. Proportions are perfect but a bit big for our local B roads!

[kzg1969]

The X3M was going when the M3Touring came out.....but at that price

[boba-fett]

The front lift on acceleration on the latest RS6 is comical and the C7 before it was a much more handsome car.

We are at a point where there is not much to choose from between the 3 German Giant Estates. Bit boring now, and anyway, fast 4x4's make better sense these days given the state of out roads.

[g9icy]

If someone was offering me one or the other of these for free... I think I'd have to go with the RS6...

I comes down to one simple fact, that to me the RS6 just sounds absolutely amazing even when driving normally. That grunty growly sound is just music to my ears. The M3 is a little too "raspy" (though not as raspy as older M3's).

I know the M3 will drive better, but I'm a torque addict and the S58 isn't very torque-y low down (apparently), so that's another factor as well.

But then I don't think I could afford to run either these days

My ideal garage would be something big like the RS6, or M5 (I wish they did a touring), and then an M2 or some breed of Porsche for actual weekend fun.

[Bryans69]

Originally Posted by Bianchi Dave

I would happily give a kidney for a G81, but the RS6 just looks so damn good for a big estate car. Proportions are perfect but a bit big for our local B roads!

I've always thought the Audi estates are the best looking, probably the nicest 'family' cars currently on sale, at least visually.

Originally Posted by boba-fett

We are at a point where there is not much to choose from between the 3 German Giant Estates. Bit boring now, and anyway, fast 4x4's make better sense these days given the state of out roads.

Given that most fast 4x4s have sports suspension and stupid low profile tyres, are they really any better?

[Kendo67]

Originally Posted by Bryans69

Given that most fast 4x4s have sports suspension and stupid low profile tyres, are they really any better?

Most have adjustable suspension , the air suspension in the Cayenne is outstanding even on the 21`s. Comfort is just that and sport is firm (uncomfortable) unless on a perfect surface , which are non existent around here anyway but at least the option is there when roads permit.

K

[boba-fett]

Originally Posted by Bryans69

I've always thought the Audi estates are the best looking, probably the nicest 'family' cars currently on sale, at least visually.



Given that most fast 4x4s have sports suspension and stupid low profile tyres, are they really any better?

I think so, my X5 has 20's and the tyres are 40 series but are wide (315 on the back) making them have big side walls. It makes a difference!

[KRS_SN]

This is pure joy.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Eykg4lX5...SIkaIECMiOmarE

[Bianchi Dave]

Originally Posted by KRS_SN

This is pure joy.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Eykg4lX5...SIkaIECMiOmarE

The car certainly is. Rory's hoodie certainly isn't!

Or maybe I'm just getting old

[KRS_SN]

Originally Posted by Bianchi Dave

The car certainly is. Rory's hoodie certainly isn't!

Or maybe I'm just getting old

I didn't see Rory or the jumper eyes were on the blue beauty. Wtf was a washing machine doing in there?

[Bianchi Dave]

Originally Posted by KRS_SN

I didn't see Rory or the jumper eyes were on the blue beauty. Wtf was a washing machine doing in there?

I think its a tumble dryer, but the way he lifted it into the boot himself suggests its innards were removed.

Is it just me, or does anyone else get annoyed when car reviewers are rough with cars? Mat Watson is particularly bad for it, banging his boots off rear bumpers when climbing in the boot etc.

I get that they're press cars but still, they could show a little respect to vehicles they don't own.

[isleaiw1]

Originally Posted by kzg1969

The X3M was going when the M3Touring came out.....but at that price

I was the same, always vowed I'd replace the RS4 with an M3 Touring.... but...
- the Audi is better looking
- the M3 is stupidly expensive - I reckon with a few bits and current discounts it would be over £80k, maybe £85k. That might be the going rate these days but its going to make them a much rarer sight...
- the roads round me and that I use just dont encourage any car with performance as you cant use it....

So I think my days of M cars are done, and probably RS cars too. Well until they do an EV version

[KRS_SN]

Another one...
https://youtu.be/m9VtWPqjxsg

[danb1979]

Originally Posted by Bianchi Dave

I think its a tumble dryer, but the way he lifted it into the boot himself suggests its innards were removed.

Is it just me, or does anyone else get annoyed when car reviewers are rough with cars? Mat Watson is particularly bad for it, banging his boots off rear bumpers when climbing in the boot etc.

I get that they're press cars but still, they could show a little respect to vehicles they don't own.

Tumble dryers aren't heavy... Now washing machines; that's another story

[Bianchi Dave]

Originally Posted by danb1979

Tumble dryers aren't heavy... Now washing machines; that's another story

Nothing is heavy for you Dan