[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by AmuroRay

Looks good but the logo on the nose is off center.

Can be . But LEW's K-button 'IS the center in his car .

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Can be . But LEW's K-button 'IS the center in his car .

I was about to say, that's a small steering wheel

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

McLaren is very dominant in cheating (!)

Those wing gaps to disappear at Suzuka for sure slowing the Laren down on the straights and waiting what can Wache come up with cooling the tires via these sculpted hubs but not necessarily for this coming race.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Well my friend, I can't see any Frankenstein cars there apart from the hoover up frontal floors but next year we will see 20 Frankensteins emerging from their boxes

[dumptruck]

Originally Posted by Artemis

A 12.5 years age gap between two F1 drivers, is relevant. Hamilton had already competed 8 years in F1 when Verstappen entered F1 as a rookie.

Shouldn't we just compare the first 8 years of each driver's career then?

[minn19]

Originally Posted by 3798j

^Have we noticed that most of his posts say exactly the same thing (usally word for word )...don't think there was ever a more deserving poster to receive this award....

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Not just him as you can see below.

The hatred or fandom colors the Hamilton or insert whoever as to what people think of them.

Max and Lewis are undoubtedly part of the all time greats and we are fortunate that we get to watch them together.

Now Fernando is undoubtedly the most overrated driver of all time.

[minn19]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Mate . You must be kidding ...

Valtteri Bottas was LEW's lap dog for 5 years (!)

Max hasn’t even had a teammate at the caliber of Bottas since they ran Danny out of town so what does that say about RBR/Max?

They were even too afraid to do the obvious and sign Carlos.

[minn19]

At least MB, Toto, Lewis treated Bottas quite well and he got a ton of wins with them.

Compare that treatment to all the RBR drivers not named Max, especially Checo. Checo did everything for Max and he can’t get over the Monaco thing?

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by minn19

Max and Lewis are undoubtedly part of the all time greats and we are fortunate that we get to watch them together.

Definitely.

[GuidoK]

Rumour has it that Ferrari might bring a new floor as upgrade in Suzuka.
It was planned for Bahrain, but they try to get it earlier in.

And already trailing McLaren 35 points in the WDC....they need it...

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by dumptruck

Shouldn't we just compare the first 8 years of each driver's career then?

Here you go.

First 8 years of their F1 careers:

• Hamilton (Jan 7, 1985): seasons 2007-2014 (age: 22 to 29 years);
  (Verstappen was no competitor during any of those 8 seasons);
• Verstappen (Sep 30, 1997): seasons 2015-2022 (age: 17 to 25 years);
  (Hamilton with his Mercedes F1 W06 - F1 W13 cars was a competitor during all 8 seasons).

Statistics:

• Hamilton's F1 WDC titles during seasons 2007-2014: 2 WDC titles (5+11 GP wins);
• Verstappen's F1 WDC titles during seasons 2015-2022: 2 WDC titles (10+15 GP wins);
• Hamilton's F1 GP victories during seasons 2007-2014: 33 wins;
• Verstappen's F1 GP victories during seasons 2015-2022: 35 wins;
• Hamilton's F1 GP podium finishes during seasons 2007-2014: 70 podium finishes;
• Verstappen's F1 GP podium finishes during seasons 2015-2022: 77 podium finishes;
• Hamilton's F1 GP pole positions during seasons 2007-2014: 38 pole positions;
• Verstappen's F1 GP pole positions during seasons 2015-2022: 20 pole positions:
• Hamilton's F1 GP fastest laps during seasons 2007-2014: 20 fastest laps;
• Verstappen's F1 GP fastest laps during seasons 2015-2022: 21 fastest laps;
• Hamilton's F1 Sprint victories during seasons 2007-2014: not applicable;
  (ever since introduction in 2021: 1 win out of 19 F1 Sprint events);
• Verstappen's F1 Sprint victories during seasons 2015-2022: 3 wins;
  (ever since introduction in 2021: 11 wins out of 19 F1 Sprint events);
• Hamilton's F1 GP retirements during seasons 2007-2014: 22 retirements;
  (including 10 due to accident, collision or pile-up);
  (2007-2025: 32 retirements, including 14 due to accident, collision or pile-up);
• Verstappen's F1 GP retirements during seasons 2015-2022: 31 retirements;
  (including 12 due to accident or collision);
  (2015-2025: 32 retirements, including 12 due to accident or collision).

[AmuroRay]

Seems pretty equal, no? Especially considering how many races we have now vs before

[LH44]

Which driver finished 2nd his rookie year by only 1 point and tied his 2-time WDC teammate?

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by AmuroRay

Seems pretty equal, no? Especially considering how many races we have now vs before

Originally Posted by LH44

Which driver finished 2nd his rookie year by only 1 point and tied his 2-time WDC teammate?

Fangio, Clark, Prost, Senna, Schumacher, Hamilton, Verstappen and a handful other F1 greats: all those F1 drivers had/have the skills and talent, more than their peers, to extract the most out of the F1 cars put at their disposal (competitive, less competitive or non-competitive) and to outsmart their competitors. Super-talented, karting aces, quick learning curves and great in adapting to changed circumstances, they can keep going where others run out of talent with the same car.

Getting an F1 seat from the get-go in arguably the best car of the grid, facilitates in getting top results out of the box. Credit where credit is due: a car doesn't drive itself. It ain't the car, the driver or the team individually who warrants getting F1 WDC and WCC titles. No, it's the dynamics and symbiosis of the car-driver-team combination.

Very often, luck is when preparation meets opportunity.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by GuidoK

Rumour has it that Ferrari might bring a new floor as upgrade in Suzuka.
It was planned for Bahrain, but they try to get it earlier in.

And already trailing McLaren 35 points in the WDC....they need it...

We've seen it before, a new floor rushed in before time and I can just about hear Murray Walker repeating those famous words again..but good luck to Ferrari anyway with the rotten luck they've had recently.

[G30M]

Yuki: "Everyone is being really considerate and trying not to put pressure on me, which is really kind of them. But honestly, please have high expectations and put all the pressure on me. I can't guarantee that I'll live up to those expectations, but I'll do my absolute best."

[Killed by Death]

Originally Posted by G30M

Yuki: "Everyone is being really considerate and trying not to put pressure on me, which is really kind of them. But honestly, please have high expectations and put all the pressure on me. I can't guarantee that I'll live up to those expectations, but I'll do my absolute best."

The more I hear and learn about Yuki the more I like him. Being stuck in the mid-field for so long he never got much coverage. That will change now and I pray he does well!!!

Never cared for Lawson much. Looks like an a$$hole, heard he is an a$$hole

[GuidoK]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

The more I hear and learn about Yuki the more I like him. Being stuck in the mid-field for so long he never got much coverage. That will change now and I pray he does well!!!

Never cared for Lawson much. Looks like an a$$hole, heard he is an a$$hole

What I like about Yuki is that a few years ago (I think '21 or '22?) he stepped up his game or tried to at least and actually moved to Faenza (italy) to be more present and spend more time in the factory (most F1 drivers don't do that).
What I don't like about him is that it takes such a long time for him to mature (grow up) and keep his cool. That should've taken 2 or 3 years, not five.
So an A+ for effort, but a C for result so to speak

I have no real opinion of Lawson. However, changing him after just 2 races is.....very RB
That said his results (the 3 times qualifying was held) were abysmal.
Either the RB21 is an impossible car to drive and Max really is a driving god being the only one capable to tame that car (and get a decent performance in the process!), or Lawsons performance was really sub par.

But I think there's a real chance Lawson will finish in front of Tsunoda this weekend, with the VCARB arguably being a better car than the RB.
The chance that TSU ends up in the wall or gravelpit is real. Undriveable car, home GP.....Kamikaze is a japanese word......so is Harakiri....

[Artemis]

Young Yuki:

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by GuidoK

What I like about Yuki is that a few years ago (I think '21 or '22?) he stepped up his game or tried to at least and actually moved to Faenza (italy) to be more present and spend more time in the factory (most F1 drivers don't do that).
What I don't like about him is that it takes such a long time for him to mature (grow up) and keep his cool. That should've taken 2 or 3 years, not five.
So an A+ for effort, but a C for result so to speak

I have no real opinion of Lawson. However, changing him after just 2 races is.....very RB
That said his results (the 3 times qualifying was held) were abysmal.
Either the RB21 is an impossible car to drive and Max really is a driving god being the only one capable to tame that car (and get a decent performance in the process!), or Lawsons performance was really sub par.

But I think there's a real chance Lawson will finish in front of Tsunoda this weekend, with the VCARB arguably being a better car than the RB.
The chance that TSU ends up in the wall or gravelpit is real. Undriveable car, home GP.....Kamikaze is a japanese word......so is Harakiri....

Spot on (!)
Yeah .I really like Yuki and his Japanese temperament .
#JapaneseB@lls
I'm used to work with Japanese people , it's always funny when they are angry ..

Suzuka is his home race and hopefully he won't be over-motivated and over-confident.
Because the RB21 Frankenstein car is no joke to drive with .
Hopefully he gets the car in Q3 , then I see him throw himself to help MAX in the fights .
One thing is for sure , it won't be easy for our little Japanese boy.

必ず頑張ります

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Well my friend, I can't see any Frankenstein cars there apart from the hoover up frontal floors but next year we will see 20 Frankensteins emerging from their boxes

The Red Bull Tokyo showrun today (!)

[G30M]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Suzuka is his home race and hopefully he won't be over-motivated and over-confident.
Because the RB21 Frankenstein car is no joke to drive with .
Hopefully he gets the car in Q3 , then I see him throw himself to help MAX in the fights .
One thing is for sure , it won't be easy for our little Japanese boy.

of all the bets placed for the winner of Suzuka, at this moment 60% of bets are for Yuki to win!