Sport Plus

AP · 02-05-2018, 11:01 AM

Look at page 38. This is the us docs so the 520d is not listed but appears to be 540i or "better"

http://g30.bimmerpost.com/forums/att...1&d=1490116822

Almaretto · 02-05-2018, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by alegsxr

Sorry...but i can't find in which way i can enable sport+ in g30... Can you help me please?

You should already have. Did you car come without paddle shifters?

timmahh · 02-05-2018, 08:48 PM

Is there a transmission difference on the 520d? I know the 320i for example does not have the sport transmission, nor paddle shifters, and Sport+ is not an option either. It's still an 8AT. Just wondering if there is actually a hardware difference or they simply pull the paddle shifters and disable it via software.

Almaretto · 02-06-2018, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by timmahh

Is there a transmission difference on the 520d? I know the 320i for example does not have the sport transmission, nor paddle shifters, and Sport+ is not an option either. It's still an 8AT. Just wondering if there is actually a hardware difference or they simply pull the paddle shifters and disable it via software.

ECU's are the same. Not sure about other hardware.

alegsxr · 02-13-2018, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Almaretto

You should already have. Did you car come without paddle shifters?

in original i haven't (i have the paddle) but i can activate it by coding.
The only question is...which difference from Sport? I see that the gas is really reactive but i can't see DSC off...is correct?

In g30 the sport plus disable DSC or not?

Almaretto · 02-13-2018, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by alegsxr

in original i haven't (i have the paddle) but i can activate it by coding.
The only question is...which difference from Sport? I see that the gas is really reactive but i can't see DSC off...is correct?

In g30 the sport plus disable DSC or not?

Sport has multiple modes (individual, sport, sport+).

Sport+ is DSC off.

You can either code just paddles to verbaut or 2TB.

alegsxr · 02-14-2018, 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Almaretto

Sport has multiple modes (individual, sport, sport+).

Sport+ is DSC off.

You can either code just paddles to verbaut or 2TB.

Ok but when i put in Sport+ i can't see the word TRACTION in yellow...why?

AP · 02-14-2018, 04:25 AM

Traction means dtc is enabled as opposed to being completely off.

Does that help or have I misunderstood the question?

richard in NC · 02-14-2018, 09:32 AM

I thought Sport+ was DTC mode. Traction control disabled but DSC still on.
Press and hold the Trac Off button to fully disable DSC. Correct?

AP · 02-14-2018, 11:13 AM

Yes brief press gives you dtc with traction displayed in cluster. Some slip but dsc still looking after you to some extent.
Hold for about 10 seconds and dsc completely off. You're on your own!

Canuck99 · 02-14-2018, 03:19 PM

Sport+ doesn't do anything with DTC/DSC, that is still at your discretion via the button. As an example, for launch control, you need Sport+, brief press of button to put DTC on (some slip allowed), and then do the brake/gas pedals...

Almaretto · 02-15-2018, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Canuck99

Sport+ doesn't do anything with DTC/DSC, that is still at your discretion via the button. As an example, for launch control, you need Sport+, brief press of button to put DTC on (some slip allowed), and then do the brake/gas pedals...

So the cluster indication is just for show in Sport+?

emre · 02-15-2018, 11:42 PM

I don't see any sign of DTC/DSC going on or off when switching between modes.

And when i push the car, traction control behaves exactly same in sport and sport plus modes - does not kick in any sooner or later in either mode.

Here is a photo when in sport plus mode, it just says sport plus in the instrument cluster

lnaukkar · 02-16-2018, 01:44 AM

Afaik when you look at the sport configuration display, it shows "sport plus" only affects engine and transmission. On top of that, you may want to enable DTC for traction control, like stated above.

richard in NC · 02-16-2018, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Canuck99

Sport+ doesn't do anything with DTC/DSC, that is still at your discretion via the button. As an example, for launch control, you need Sport+, brief press of button to put DTC on (some slip allowed), and then do the brake/gas pedals...

That is different than previous BMWs. My X4 definitely enables DTC (no traction control) when in Sport+.

But good to know. Thanks.

Canuck99 · 02-16-2018, 12:22 PM

Don't want to be disagreeing with Almaretto as he's damn knowledgeable on these cars but my observation is the same as emre - no indication on the instrument display that DTC/DSC changes at all with activation of Sport+. I can then press the DTC button to cause that to happen - have an M550i with 2VW Adaptive M Suspension, active roll stabilization, rear steering.

HighlandPete · 02-16-2018, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Canuck99

Don't want to be disagreeing with Almaretto as he's damn knowledgeable on these cars but my observation is the same as emre - no indication on the instrument display that DTC/DSC changes at all with activation of Sport+. I can then press the DTC button to cause that to happen - have an M550i with 2VW Adaptive M Suspension, active roll stabilization, rear steering.

G30 data for models with Sport+ states:

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The SPORT+ mode influences the accelerator pedal characteristic curve, the shift points and the Active Sound Design.

There is no mention of DTC being activated as part of Sport+, as in previous models.

Almaretto · 02-16-2018, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Canuck99

Don't want to be disagreeing with Almaretto as he's damn knowledgeable on these cars but my observation is the same as emre - no indication on the instrument display that DTC/DSC changes at all with activation of Sport+. I can then press the DTC button to cause that to happen - have an M550i with 2VW Adaptive M Suspension, active roll stabilization, rear steering.

I was not not disagreeing. I was asking for confirmation. Good to know there is difference.

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AP Major General 3614 Rep 5,854 Posts Drives: G30 M550 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	Traction means dtc is enabled as opposed to being completely off. Does that help or have I misunderstood the question?
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richard in NC Colonel 1274 Rep 2,606 Posts Drives: 2009 Z4 35i Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Charlotte, NC iTrader: (0)	I thought Sport+ was DTC mode. Traction control disabled but DSC still on. Press and hold the Trac Off button to fully disable DSC. Correct? __________________ 2020 X3M non-comp, Alpine White over black : Exec Pkg, ventilated M Sport seats, 20"s 2020 M2 Comp, Sunset Orange/Blk: Orange stitching, DCT, exec pkg, bicolor rims Gone '18 M550i, '16 X4 M40i, '15 M5, '13 X3 35i, '12 335is, '11 X5 50i, '09 Z4 35i, '08 550i, 06 X3, 06 650i, '02 M5, '99 540i
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AP Major General 3614 Rep 5,854 Posts Drives: G30 M550 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	Yes brief press gives you dtc with traction displayed in cluster. Some slip but dsc still looking after you to some extent. Hold for about 10 seconds and dsc completely off. You're on your own!
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Canuck99 Private First Class 120 Rep 193 Posts Drives: '18 M550i, '15 Jaguar F-Type R Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada iTrader: (0)	Sport+ doesn't do anything with DTC/DSC, that is still at your discretion via the button. As an example, for launch control, you need Sport+, brief press of button to put DTC on (some slip allowed), and then do the brake/gas pedals...
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emre First Lieutenant 97 Rep 383 Posts Drives: G30 540i xDrive Join Date: May 2010 Location: Istanbul iTrader: (0)	I don't see any sign of DTC/DSC going on or off when switching between modes. And when i push the car, traction control behaves exactly same in sport and sport plus modes - does not kick in any sooner or later in either mode. Here is a photo when in sport plus mode, it just says sport plus in the instrument cluster Attached Images __________________ G30 540i xDrive M Sport MPPSK / BM3
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lnaukkar Private First Class 23 Rep 118 Posts Drives: G30 530e, F40 118i Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Helsinki iTrader: (0)	Afaik when you look at the sport configuration display, it shows "sport plus" only affects engine and transmission. On top of that, you may want to enable DTC for traction control, like stated above.
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Canuck99 Private First Class 120 Rep 193 Posts Drives: '18 M550i, '15 Jaguar F-Type R Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada iTrader: (0)	Don't want to be disagreeing with Almaretto as he's damn knowledgeable on these cars but my observation is the same as emre - no indication on the instrument display that DTC/DSC changes at all with activation of Sport+. I can then press the DTC button to cause that to happen - have an M550i with 2VW Adaptive M Suspension, active roll stabilization, rear steering.
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