[Fugly M3]

Will the X3 get this engine is my question!!!

[BimmerMat135]

Originally Posted by E46M54325Ci

Will the X3 get this engine is my question!!!

My guess is that the X3 will get the B47 2.0 4cyl 187bhp/295ft-lb.

[farns2345]

Seems like a smart move...Audi is out and I just recently read that MB is pulling out of diesels in NA.

[m3rxn]

Awesome

[XsltAnalyst]

It's a good move by BMW, especially since others in the same class doesn't offer a diesel.

[omg618]

Badge it as a 518 or 560 for all I care. I'm just happy to be getting the 5D. Can't wait.

[LemonOne]

Originally Posted by fndrsn

They're not dialing it down, it's exactly the same engine as the 530d here but North America has an aversion to small numbers apparently so they have to add 10 to the badge

Are you saying the US verison of 540i has same engine as the Euro 530i?

[Fugly M3]

Originally Posted by BimmerMat135

My guess is that the X3 will get the B47 2.0 4cyl 187bhp/295ft-lb.

brutal.

[stylinexpat]

Originally Posted by BimmerMat135

My guess is that the X3 will get the B47 2.0 4cyl 187bhp/295ft-lb.

I think so too. Would have been nice to see those two options in the X3 and 3 series BMW here in America

[babaikram]

Originally Posted by moff

Why call it a 540d when it's the 530d literally everywhere else in the world and what's the issue with the biturbo 3.0d?? Weird.

Current G20 diesel models in the UK

520d - 190hp - 2l 4 pot
530d - 260hp - 3l 6 pot
540d - 313hp - 3l 6 pot biturbo (not launched yet)

30d and 40d are essentially the same engines except the 40d has 2 turbos instead of 1.

You have forgotten 525d - 231hp 500 Nm (369 ft lb) -2l 4 pots but biturbo

[uniqueMR]

[kbNO]

Originally Posted by Cortexiphan

I disagree. IMO, no diesel engine can be as refined and smooth as any petrol engine unless you care more about torque than refinement and smoothness. Personally, I'd prefer 520i to 540d. My father used to have a 530d E60 back in the day (I wasn't in the US back then), and I remember driving my buddy's E90 320i back to back with the 530d.. That 2 litre petrol engine was better than 530d's engine. 530d had a very impressive low end torque, but 2 litre patrol engine felt more refined, smoother and more expensive. That's why 4 years after that, when I was buying my own BMW, I went for E93 330i even though it was ridiculously expensive both in terms of purchasing cost and ownership cost.

That's just plain ridiculous in my opinion. The new 30d engine is an absolute masterpiece, probably the single most impressive engine coming out of Munich these days.

[morellomax]

30d installation in the G30 body is so well isolated that mechanical noise and vibration is genuinely never an issue. Improved over F10, which itself was quieter than E60. It makes a genuinely likeable sort of faint woofly roar under wider throttle openings and just fades into the background the rest of the time.

[clbmw]

Originally Posted by BimmerMat135

My guess is that the X3 will get the B47 2.0 4cyl 187bhp/295ft-lb.

Yep and it'll be badged X3 60d

[aghanta]

I have gone through the specs of the new 540d, that will be sold in the US.

It has the same engine as the European 530d, but some how the 0-60 time is being stated as 4.5 secs, whereas the European motor does that in 5.4 secs.

The online configurator is now available on BMWUSA.com.


Just got an update from BMW, I have reported this to them, they have confirmed that it is an error, they are correcting this on their website now.

2/1/2018

[omg618]

Originally Posted by aghanta

I have gone through the specs of the new 540d, that will be sold in the US.

It has the same engine as the European 530d, but some how the 0-60 time is being stated as 4.5 secs, whereas the European motor does that in 5.4 secs.

The online configurator is now available on BMWUSA.com.

Curious of this as well as BMW has historically been conservative with their output/performance numbers. If 4.5 is accurate,


link to build
https://www.bmwusa.com/byo.html#!/bu...orlds/djvca68x

[aghanta]

Originally Posted by omg618

Curious of this as well as BMW has historically been conservative with their output/performance numbers. If 4.5 is accurate,


link to build
https://www.bmwusa.com/byo.html#!/bu...orlds/djvca68x

Hi,

I just checked with them(BMWUSA), they admitted it was a mistake, they are correcting it now.

[visualguy]

I get why people buy this diesel car when they drive a huge amount (economy, although even that isn't obvious), but why would anyone else consider it? It's more expensive than the 540i, but accelerates slower. How is the extra torque a benefit if the car still accelerates slower?

[Jim-Bow]

Originally Posted by visualguy

I get why people buy this diesel car when they drive a huge amount (economy, although even that isn't obvious), but why would anyone else consider it? It's more expensive than the 540i, but accelerates slower. How is the extra torque a benefit if the car still accelerates slower?

Whilst horsepower is measured and yup pretty much defines the 0-60 time and top speed of a car, its not something you can feel - torque is and gives you the 'sensation' of acceleration (its an amount of delta/change vs the measurement of overall work):

In practice high torque makes a car "feel" powerful and effortless even if the 540i next to it would beat it to the 1/4 mile every time.

If youve not experienced it itd be certainly worth a test drive.

[aghanta]

Originally Posted by visualguy

I get why people buy this diesel car when they drive a huge amount (economy, although even that isn't obvious), but why would anyone else consider it? It's more expensive than the 540i, but accelerates slower. How is the extra torque a benefit if the car still accelerates slower?

Because Diesel fuel is cheaper than premium grade gas at most places, also it gives significantly more MPG.

[visualguy]

Originally Posted by aghanta

Because Diesel fuel is cheaper than premium grade gas at most places, also it gives significantly more MPG.

I was asking for reasons not related to economy. Even the economy part isn't obvious because the car itself is more expensive (in the US), and diesel is actually more expensive than premium for many. For example, in California, which is the most populous state in the US, diesel is more expensive than premium.

[visualguy]

Originally Posted by Jim-Bow

Whilst horsepower is measured and yup pretty much defines the 0-60 time and top speed of a car, its not something you can feel - torque is and gives you the 'sensation' of acceleration (its an amount of delta/change vs the measurement of overall work):

In practice high torque makes a car "feel" powerful and effortless even if the 540i next to it would beat it to the 1/4 mile every time.

If youve not experienced it itd be certainly worth a test drive.

Yes, I can see how it could feel faster while being slower because the engine doesn't have to rev as high, but I would still rather drive the car that actually accelerates faster than the car that only feels like it's accelerating faster...