[LuvMyE92]

Originally Posted by VirtualGuitars

Or you can pay $890 after the fact!

https://www.getbmwparts.com/p-g30-5-...set-pkg30spare

$985 now. (original post was from 2020)

Originally Posted by HerkHealer

For those that ditch the runflats and still want a spare, look here.

https://modernspare.com/product/2017...e-kit-options/

That looks super, thanks for the heads-up! BTW, just because you have run-flats doesn't mean that you don't need a spare tire. Run-flats will not save you when you're hundreds of miles from home, on a holiday weekend, with a ruined tire (think shredded sidewall from nasty pothole).

[cna90]

Originally Posted by LuvMyE92

$985 now. (original post was from 2020)

That looks super, thanks for the heads-up! BTW, just because you have run-flats doesn't mean that you don't need a spare tire. Run-flats will not save you when you're hundreds of miles from home, on a holiday weekend, with a ruined tire (think shredded sidewall from nasty pothole).

Well in that case even the donut spare won't help you either! You need a full size spare tire for long drives!
It's recommended on the side wall that only drive 50miles/80kms on the donut as well. Specially cars with xDrive, longer driving will damage the transfercase.

[LuvMyE92]

Originally Posted by cna90

Well in that case even the donut spare won't help you either! You need a full size spare tire for long drives!
It's recommended on the side wall that only drive 50miles/80kms on the donut as well. Specially cars with xDrive, longer driving will damage the transfercase.

Many years ago when the little donuts or doughnuts had come out into popular use as OE spares, Car & Driver did a review of them, how well they handled, how long they lasted, etc. It was quite surprising how well they did. I suspect that the 50 mile recommendation gives you a huge safety margin, although if the total tire diameter is different from the OE tires, then yes, I can see some distress occurring from the differential(s).

I can't remember exactly if my F10 had a spare (I think it did) and I know my F01 had one, but I think those were the last BMWs to do so. It's a darn shame that these cars are no longer designed with room to store a full-size spare. These are family cars, perfect for long journeys, and yet we can't use them for that without some worry about what may happen if you get a flat.

[cna90]

Originally Posted by LuvMyE92

Many years ago when the little donuts or doughnuts had come out into popular use as OE spares, Car & Driver did a review of them, how well they handled, how long they lasted, etc. It was quite surprising how well they did. I suspect that the 50 mile recommendation gives you a huge safety margin, although if the total tire diameter is different from the OE tires, then yes, I can see some distress occurring from the differential(s).

I can't remember exactly if my F10 had a spare (I think it did) and I know my F01 had one, but I think those were the last BMWs to do so. It's a darn shame that these cars are no longer designed with room to store a full-size spare. These are family cars, perfect for long journeys, and yet we can't use them for that without some worry about what may happen if you get a flat.

F10s were hit and miss not all had it and the ones did like G30 it had a donut.
Part of it is weight/cost saving but more so the investment that BMW did on their SOS system in the past few years.
I've seen enough people in the middle of nowhere while vacationing, had a breakdown/accident, not just tire issues and with no cell coverage they had a great experience with their BMW SOS system. Quick respond and pick up.

[ezaircon4jc]

Originally Posted by LuvMyE92

... These are family cars, perfect for long journeys, and yet we can't use them for that without some worry about what may happen if you get a flat.

We drove our F10 on a roughly 5K road trip a couple of years ago. I had swapped the ROFs for some Michelin summer tires. I never once worried about a flat. I did carry a plug kit, jack & portable compressor. I think in my 50 years of driving I've had 4 flats; only one non-repairable.

[LuvMyE92]

Originally Posted by ezaircon4jc

I think in my 50 years of driving I've had 4 flats; only one non-repairable.

LOL, you're old! Me too.

I've had tire blowouts, nails and screws in the sidewall that can't be repaired, a truck with a flat where I could not get the spare off of the truck (the AAA couldn't and the tire shop couldn't either) and the aforementioned broken valve stem which fortunately happened about 2 miles from the tire store on my way home.

But all of my cars have been models where your local tire store/WallyWorld is not going to stock their OE size tires, especially in RFT. So any catastrophic failure is going to cause a multi-day delay. That's why I want a real spare.

[ezaircon4jc]

Originally Posted by LuvMyE92

LOL, you're old! Me too.

I've had tire blowouts, nails and screws in the sidewall that can't be repaired, a truck with a flat where I could not get the spare off of the truck (the AAA couldn't and the tire shop couldn't either) and the aforementioned broken valve stem which fortunately happened about 2 miles from the tire store on my way home.

But all of my cars have been models where your local tire store/WallyWorld is not going to stock their OE size tires, especially in RFT. So any catastrophic failure is going to cause a multi-day delay. That's why I want a real spare.

Therein lies the rub. The road trips we take where a flat is (remotely) possible is where I can't afford the loss of trunk space. The spare takes up the equivalent of a suitcase. I keep threatening my wife that I'll buy a trailer and tow it on trips so she can bring all the clothes she thinks she needs! That, or rent a motorhome!

[LuvMyE92]

Originally Posted by ezaircon4jc

Therein lies the rub. The road trips we take where a flat is (remotely) possible is where I can't afford the loss of trunk space. The spare takes up the equivalent of a suitcase. I keep threatening my wife that I'll buy a trailer and tow it on trips so she can bring all the clothes she thinks she needs! That, or rent a motorhome!

Two suggestions:

1) Leave the wife (and all of her stuff) behind. This is not always feasible.
2) Get a roof rack and strap her... uh, her stuff, to the rack.

I do constantly remind my wife that we are only going for 2 days, and she doesn't need 7 pairs of shoes, 9 blouses and 5 pairs of pants.

[jsf721]

We should start a support group.

Maybe we can zoom from the bar on Thursday’s.

Same problem !

Originally Posted by ezaircon4jc

Therein lies the rub. The road trips we take where a flat is (remotely) possible is where I can't afford the loss of trunk space. The spare takes up the equivalent of a suitcase. I keep threatening my wife that I'll buy a trailer and tow it on trips so she can bring all the clothes she thinks she needs! That, or rent a motorhome!

[jsf721]

I have the factory spare and the hands free in my 2019 540 x drive m sport with 19” rims.

Originally Posted by BD550

On the spec setup on bmw website if you add the the 20" 668 double spoke rims with non-run-flats it says "Delete hands-free tailgate operation" as it adds the spare automatically. Is this true that you lose this funtion? Anyone know if you lose hands free tailgate with the 19" or other 20" wheels as well when you add the spare option? Configurator seems to suggest as much.

[430Scud]

Originally Posted by LuvMyE92

$985 now. (original post was from 2020)

$1050 now.

When I picked up my M550ix (used) from Kelowna BMW in British Columbia, it had non run flats, but no spare. Apparently in Canada you get a tire inflator kit with that goop stuff and a air compressor. All packed away in a corner of the trunk. I kinda complained, and the salesman laughed and said if I really wanted one, I could have one for free, as another customer picked their 540ix up that week and when they saw how much trunk space it took up, they left it behind in the service dept. They had a service tech grab it and place it in the trunk for me...only problem, it was missing the jack...but it wasn't too expensive to pick one up online.

[G30M]

i have a modernspare. sits in the boot tray nicely