[2022M550i]

Just curious if someone knew what options BMW is no longer offering in the new cars...or since the supply shortage began. It seems like it changes from time to time. Were the auto closing doors a victim of this? Also, I haven't seen the B&W sound system option. No option for the wireless phone charging either.

[LogicalApex]

Soft close doors were killed starting with the LCI.

B&W was moved up to only the M550i

Wireless charging is alive or dead depending on supply. Same with 360 cameras, touch screen, and probably others I am not remembering.

[2022M550i]

Even the B&W disappeared when I was looking at the m550i in the BMW website last week. Seems like it's totally random.

[jsf721]

Parking assistance

Sometimes power tail gate

Sometimes HUD.

I built a car and msrp dropped. It’s bc parking assistance is gone for now.

My brother got a credit bc his car was delivered months ago without XM radio (no chips). It was an X3.

[2022M550i]

Originally Posted by jsf721

Parking assistance

Sometimes power tail gate

Sometimes HUD.

I built a car and msrp dropped. It’s bc parking assistance is gone for now.

My brother got a credit bc his car was delivered months ago without XM radio (no chips). It was an X3.

Did they offered to add XM radio when parts come in? …. Or was it just a straight up credit, you ain't getting it?

[NGT2]

I just don't think I'd order a car right now. I also feel like the preowned market will be weird for these cars. One of the upsides of buying pre owned is getting all the options at the depreciated value. Why spend the money for a new car if you can't get what you want? Now, if the options don't matter to you to begin with, I get that.

[Joe-BMW33]

Yeah, I'm not so sure B&W is available on the M550, it's been missing as an option for a long time on all models.

Supposedly soft close doors were removed before COVID because BMW says their marketing research shows that 5 series owners don't want them. I'm not buying that. They removed them from the LCI's in the middle of COVID and supply issues, just like all the other missing options.

All the other stuff listed by you guys already is hit or miss. Some people are getting kick trunk and some not for example.

I'd agree, not the time to order a new car that's stripped of the luxury options we expect in a car of this value. Not to mention, BMW takes off peanuts for the omissions that it barely moves the dial on the price. That's kind of shitty by BMW.

Selfishly, I'm happy to have a very well equipped 2018, it makes me not feel the urge to have the latest and not so greatest. No offense to late 2021 and 2022 owners, but the fact that you can't have B&W in a 2022 is a non starter for me and makes me appreciate what I have more.

[jsf721]

Originally Posted by 2022M550i

Did they offered to add XM radio when parts come in? …. Or was it just a straight up credit, you ain't getting it?

They did not tell him. His lease payment was a few bucks less that whatnot was quoted. He was exited until he found out why.

As far a I know it cannot be added.

[NGT2]

Originally Posted by Joe-BMW33

Yeah, I'm not so sure B&W is available on the M550, it's been missing as an option for a long time on all models.

Supposedly soft close doors were removed before COVID because BMW says their marketing research shows that 5 series owners don't want them. I'm not buying that. They removed them from the LCI's in the middle of COVID and supply issues, just like all the other missing options.

All the other stuff listed by you guys already is hit or miss. Some people are getting kick trunk and some not for example.

I'd agree, not the time to order a new car that's stripped of the luxury options we expect in a car of this value. Not to mention, BMW takes off peanuts for the omissions that it barely moves the dial on the price. That's kind of shitty by BMW.

Selfishly, I'm happy to have a very well equipped 2018, it makes me not feel the urge to have the latest and not so greatest. No offense to late 2021 and 2022 owners, but the fact that you can't have B&W in a 2022 is a non starter for me and makes me appreciate what I have more.

I don't have B&W but I agree with the sentiment. I do have full parking assist for instance, as well as push button close on the trunk and kick to open. Also phone charging and a few other things I've seen people mention.

If I needed a car and was ordering new, I'd be excited for sure. But I agree that I feel less impatience or envy for the latest and greatest when my CPO was 60% of the money with all of the options.

If they're able to sell the stripped down g30s for almost full price now, no telling what they'll charge when they roll out the 2024 with (hopefully) all the options!

As a side note - if I were them and supply was still an issue when the time comes nearer, I'd rather delay a new rollout than roll it out in a stripped down version.

[jsf721]

That’s why I’m buying out my lease.

Originally Posted by NGT2

I just don't think I'd order a car right now. I also feel like the preowned market will be weird for these cars. One of the upsides of buying pre owned is getting all the options at the depreciated value. Why spend the money for a new car if you can't get what you want? Now, if the options don't matter to you to begin with, I get that.

[Joe-BMW33]

Originally Posted by 2022M550i

Just curious if someone knew what options BMW is no longer offering in the new cars...or since the supply shortage began. It seems like it changes from time to time. Were the auto closing doors a victim of this? Also, I haven't seen the B&W sound system option. No option for the wireless phone charging either.

What's your 2022 missing that's standard usually and what options could you not get?

[2022M550i]

My 2022 has everything that I wanted, but it was built in October where parts weren't such an issue. I'm just curious about the current automotive manufacturing climate. I don't have the bowers and Wilkins Soundsystem or TVs behind the headrest, but basically everything else. A Soundsystem certainly wouldnt prevent me from buying the car. The main reasons why I bought the m550i was for the powertrain/performance and comfort. The rest was secondary honestly. But as of recent, from reading some of these posts, seems like it's hit or miss lately…there would be multiple show stoppers for me. I generally dont feel sorry for dealers, but the past year has been awful for them. It's got to be a tough business to be in now

[Joe-BMW33]

Originally Posted by 2022M550i

My 2022 has everything that I wanted, but it was built in October where parts weren't such an issue. I'm just curious about the current automotive manufacturing climate. I don't have the bowers and Wilkins Soundsystem or TVs behind the headrest, but basically everything else. A Soundsystem certainly wouldnt prevent me from buying the car. The main reasons why I bought the m550i was for the powertrain/performance and comfort. The rest was secondary honestly. But as of recent, from reading some of these posts, seems like it's hit or miss lately…there would be multiple show stoppers for me. I generally dont feel sorry for dealers, but the past year has been awful for them. It's got to be a tough business to be in now

Sounds like you made out alright and have close to what you wanted. And you're right, at the end of the day the most enjoyable thing about the car is driving it and experiencing the performance. Good fidelity and driving go together for me.

[LogicalApex]

Originally Posted by Joe-BMW33

Yeah, I'm not so sure B&W is available on the M550, it's been missing as an option for a long time on all models.

Supposedly soft close doors were removed before COVID because BMW says their marketing research shows that 5 series owners don't want them. I'm not buying that. They removed them from the LCI's in the middle of COVID and supply issues, just like all the other missing options.

All the other stuff listed by you guys already is hit or miss. Some people are getting kick trunk and some not for example.

I'd agree, not the time to order a new car that's stripped of the luxury options we expect in a car of this value. Not to mention, BMW takes off peanuts for the omissions that it barely moves the dial on the price. That's kind of shitty by BMW.

Selfishly, I'm happy to have a very well equipped 2018, it makes me not feel the urge to have the latest and not so greatest. No offense to late 2021 and 2022 owners, but the fact that you can't have B&W in a 2022 is a non starter for me and makes me appreciate what I have more.

I agree. It is too much money to spend and be left without features you're interested in or that, quite frankly, should be standard.

I'm glad I got my car in 2019 before this all went sideways. I'll hold onto it until 2026 or 2027 and give all of this time to shake itself fully out. Which will also give me time to see some improvements to BEVs to transition from my PHEV into.

Longer than many like to hold onto their cars sure, but I'm not a fan of burning money so I'm not jumping into anything with gimped options or prices inflated into the stratosphere.

[NGT2]

Originally Posted by LogicalApex

I agree. It is too much money to spend and be left without features you're interested in or that, quite frankly, should be standard.

I'm glad I got my car in 2019 before this all went sideways. I'll hold onto it until 2026 or 2027 and give all of this time to shake itself fully out. Which will also give me time to see some improvements to BEVs to transition from my PHEV into.

Longer than many like to hold onto their cars sure, but I'm not a fan of burning money so I'm not jumping into anything with gimped options or prices inflated into the stratosphere.

That's actually a pretty reasonable amount of time to keep a car. Maybe just not relative to this forum. Haha.

I bought a 2018 preowned and my plan is get to 2025 and reassess. If I like the new version, I can keep up the 2018 until it gets tired. If I prefer the g30 to the new one, I can do the CPO thing again and get a lightly used 2023. But now I'm starting to think there may not be a huge market of 2022 & 2023 with all the features one might expect.

Honestly, I love this g30 so much that I've thought I might just keep it even after I get the next one, assuming the next one isn't another g30.

[ezaircon4jc]

Originally Posted by 2022M550i

...I generally don't feel sorry for dealers, but the past year has been awful for them. It's got to be a tough business to be in now

I drove by BMW Escondido this morning. I'd be surprised if they had a dozen cars on the lot! The whole facility looked like a Sears parking lot!

[Joe-BMW33]

Originally Posted by ezaircon4jc

I drove by BMW Escondido this morning. I'd be surprised if they had a dozen cars on the lot! The whole facility looked like a Sears parking lot!

It's absolutely stunning to see the bare lots of all dealers, not just BMW. I guess you can kind of see why and how they are adding on significant premiums over MSRP, simple supply and demand economics, just like gas prices. I guess what we don't know is how many cars are they selling either by customer order or build allocation before it goes on the boat. But I sure do miss going to BMW dealers on a Saturday or Sunday and checking out all the models.

[2022M550i]

I remember I started seriously looking at cars in October of last year. I pulled into a Mercedes dealership and seriously thought they went out of business. Not one new car on the lot, only a handful of used cars. They had 3 new vehicles inside that were for new deliveries. They said the wait time was 6 mos....nothing to test drive, I walked out.

I journeyed on down the road to the Porsche dealer. Not one new car period. Used crap inside. I looked at a used 911 turbo that the inside door panel was literally falling off. Not one salesman got up to talk to me. I thought I was in the Twighlight zone...ready to see Rod Serling walk out of one of the offices.

I finally went to a BMW dealer where they had a few stripped X3's out front. Walked into the dealer and there was a used corvette sitting there. I couldn't believe it. The salesman and I were laughing...that's all you could do at that point. I test drove a used 2019 M550i with 59k on the clock. I couldn't believe that I didn't hear one squeak or rattle...no annoying nothing. It drove like a creampuff. To me, that was a testament to the quality...it was like driving a new car. I also drove a used 540 and was again shocked about how well it held up...I was surprised about how much pep it had.

In January I thought let me take a look on the websites to see if the inventory situation was getting better. I saw my local dealer had the exact car I wanted in stock, one M550i. It had a few options I wouldn't have ordered, but am glad I have them now. Needless to say, I worked out the best deal I could. It was like pulling teeth to get $1500 off the price. While I was working out the deal with the salesman, there was another guy there working a deal with another salesman at the same time...shit actually got heated between those guys. My salesman was all red in the face having to show the other guy that I emailed him the night before inquiring about the car. Ridiculous. It was awkward, but I got the car.

[Joe-BMW33]

Originally Posted by 2022M550i

I remember I started seriously looking at cars in October of last year. I pulled into a Mercedes dealership and seriously thought they went out of business. Not one new car on the lot, only a handful of used cars. They had 3 new vehicles inside that were for new deliveries. They said the wait time was 6 mos....nothing to test drive, I walked out.

I journeyed on down the road to the Porsche dealer. Not one new car period. Used crap inside. I looked at a used 911 turbo that the inside door panel was literally falling off. Not one salesman got up to talk to me. I thought I was in the Twighlight zone...ready to see Rod Serling walk out of one of the offices.

I finally went to a BMW dealer where they had a few stripped X3's out front. Walked into the dealer and there was a used corvette sitting there. I couldn't believe it. The salesman and I were laughing...that's all you could do at that point. I test drove a used 2019 M550i with 59k on the clock. I couldn't believe that I didn't hear one squeak or rattle...no annoying nothing. It drove like a creampuff. To me, that was a testament to the quality...it was like driving a new car. I also drove a used 540 and was again shocked about how well it held up...I was surprised about how much pep it had.

In January I thought let me take a look on the websites to see if the inventory situation was getting better. I saw my local dealer had the exact car I wanted in stock, one M550i. It had a few options I wouldn't have ordered, but am glad I have them now. Needless to say, I worked out the best deal I could. It was like pulling teeth to get $1500 off the price. While I was working out the deal with the salesman, there was another guy there working a deal with another salesman at the same time...shit actually got heated between those guys. My salesman was all red in the face having to show the other guy that I emailed him the night before inquiring about the car. Ridiculous. It was awkward, but I got the car.

I had the same experience at a Porsche dealership last fall. The only new cars they had were the Taycan, the electric sedan. I was in the market (and still am) and not one sales person approached me. I would have liked to have had a conversation with someone about their pre-owned 911's, but it was like I was not even there. I ended up spotting this in the service bay and if you know 911's you know what this is. There was a kid who worked there who was probably a greeter in the service bay who knew his cars. We had a great conversation about this one which was not for sale. Someday.

[Brucelinc]

Originally Posted by 2022M550i

My 2022 has everything that I wanted, but it was built in October where parts weren't such an issue. I'm just curious about the current automotive manufacturing climate. I don't have the bowers and Wilkins Soundsystem or TVs behind the headrest, but basically everything else. A Soundsystem certainly wouldnt prevent me from buying the car. The main reasons why I bought the m550i was for the powertrain/performance and comfort. The rest was secondary honestly. But as of recent, from reading some of these posts, seems like it's hit or miss lately…there would be multiple show stoppers for me. I generally dont feel sorry for dealers, but the past year has been awful for them. It's got to be a tough business to be in now

My M550i was also built in October and I got everything I wanted. I would not have accepted the car without the 360 camera (parking assistance package) and the hands free trunk. My car does not have wireless charging but I wouldn't use that, anyway.

Like you, my primary reason for wanting an M550 was for the combination of comfort and performance. As far as I am concerned, no other vehicle offers such a stellar combination.

[2022M550i]

Originally Posted by Joe-BMW33

I had the same experience at a Porsche dealership last fall. The only new cars they had were the Taycan, the electric sedan. I was in the market (and still am) and not one sales person approached me. I would have liked to have had a conversation with someone about their pre-owned 911's, but it was like I was not even there. I ended up spotting this in the service bay and if you know 911's you know what this is. There was a kid who worked there who was probably a greeter in the service bay who knew his cars. We had a great conversation about this one which was not for sale. Someday.

That exclusive series is absolutely gorgeous (does anyone use that word anymore?)....even though I'm a hard top guy. Can't handle burning the top of my balding head with a vert. I thought the fact that no one approached me was weird. I was walking around for over 15 min. I thought maybe it was my old comfortable hole ridden sweatshirt that I was wearing...lol. That said, I already prepared the lady that there will be a GT3 or 911 turbo in "our" future. I actually made the 86k BMW purchase go smoothly with her, threatening a 200k Porsche purchase. I told her it could be much much worse.

Originally Posted by Brucelinc

My M550i was also built in October and I got everything I wanted. I would not have accepted the car without the 360 camera (parking assistance package) and the hands free trunk. My car does not have wireless charging but I wouldn't use that, anyway.

Like you, my primary reason for wanting an M550 was for the combination of comfort and performance. As far as I am concerned, no other vehicle offers such a stellar combination.

Spot on with the stellar combo. Funny thing with respect to not having the wireless charger, I put my iphone 12 in the bin the first day, just to store it, and then couldn't get it out. I was like WTF!!??? I had to get a thin putty knife in there to pry it out. There's no way I could deal with that if there was charger there.

[Joe-BMW33]

Originally Posted by 2022M550i

That exclusive series is absolutely gorgeous (does anyone use that word anymore?)....even though I'm a hard top guy. Can't handle burning the top of my balding head with a vert. I thought the fact that no one approached me was weird. I was walking around for over 15 min. I thought maybe it was my old comfortable hole ridden sweatshirt that I was wearing...lol. That said, I already prepared the lady that there will be a GT3 or 911 turbo in "our" future. I actually made the 86k BMW purchase go smoothly with her, threatening a 200k Porsche purchase. I told her it could be much much worse.

We will have to share stories on our other halves and communicating funding our car vice/addiction. I just make the same mistake over and over. I buy the car without telling her and then tell her I bought a car, which she gets more pissed about than anything. She is my girlfriend for 10 years and we live together but it's still my money, she just wants the courtesy of me sharing before not after. From my perspective, she totally does not get the need for 3-4-5 cars and she does not get how frequently I swap them out. For these reason, a preemptive conversation is friggin painful. So I pick when to get the pain.

They make the Exclusive Series in a hard top.. Watch this video some Saturday morning. Better than sex.