[Joe-BMW33]

Originally Posted by Chappers 71

Yeah is unfortunate, I thought with him being a fellow G31 owner & maybe that he’d been in Germany too long & it was just ‘Zat crazy German sense of humour’ I’d give him the benefit the doubt but he’s proved to be a sarky fucker & not funny with it either, so I just cant be bothered now.

I hope his bloody diff explodes because of not using BMW star marked tyres

Yeah, this forum has been one of the best with all great and respectful contributors. It’s the exception. Most forums have a know it all stir the pot Nassar.

[Chappers 71]

Originally Posted by MrLatte

Ive been told that MPS4S are much better than MPS4? Not sure that MPS4S have a BMW specific set.

I don’t believe that they do now.
I recall that one of the improvements of the 4S was a stiffer sidewall, well as I couldn’t get the 4S in a star marked ZP despite my ordering in a set, so I went with the 4 & being a ZP the sidewalls stiffer than a go flat 4S so I figured they’d be fine…& they are. If the 5 is available I’ll try those next time.

[Joe-BMW33]

Originally Posted by Warp Ten

I found this an informative and useful thread, but it is now becoming less fun. Can't we stick to facts and analysis rather than personal attacks? Just my $.02.—Bob

Facts would be nice Bob, that’s my point. In terms of name calling, trust me, I’d rather throw a punch when someone taunts me, but the personal attacks are appropriate and fact.

[silverydragon72]

As just an FYI I ended up going with Pilot Sport 3 ZP tires as they worked with my staggered setup, are star tires, and are still run flats instead of getting a spare. So far very happy with them much softer ride than the original Pirelli's. Biggest reason overall was sticking with run flat tires.

[G30M]

Originally Posted by MrLatte

I am looking to replace my tyres, I knew they were due soon but a nail in my rear run flat means Im swapping sooner rather than later.


Are the tyres for £260 not suitable as they do not have a star?

star no star you won't notice

each tire type will have slight differences but unless you're trying to set qualifying lap time on the nurburgring you are not going to notice the difference.

i'm assuming because you have a 5 series.

if you have M3 or a GT4 - well you might drive qualifying laps on public roads, maybe even when it's wet, you might notice those differences between a "good" tire line and an "average" one.

regarding star or no star those differences still won't matter as the non star is still good.

[Neusser]

Originally Posted by g21

star no star you won't notice

each tire type will have slight differences but unless you're trying to set qualifying lap time on the nurburgring you are not going to notice the difference.

i'm assuming because you have a 5 series.

if you have M3 or a GT4 - well you might drive qualifying laps on public roads, maybe even when it's wet, you might notice those differences between a "good" tire line and an "average" one.

regarding star or no star those differences still won't matter as the non star is still good.

Indeed.

And there is no evidence that star tires do anything other than kick back a few bucks to the marketing budget. They are about 40 bucks more per tire here, but even if they weren't the PT Barnum tactics would steer me away.

Getting a set of F1 Supersports mounted in a few weeks. Planning a drive to the 'Ring in May, with a small cooler full of Belgium's best.

[MrLatte]

Ive found this thread useful, as I hadn't noticed that PS4S were not starred and while I was impressed with them same tyres on my Yaris Im now in 2 minds about going for non star tyres.

I suppose an option would one to swap to M5 789m wheels, but probably a little extreme.

Im now thinking of going for SportContact 7, they are a lot cheaper (£840 vs 1150 for the PS4s). The Continentals won the 2023 evo performance tyre test so definitely worth consideration. https://www.evo.co.uk/tyre-reviews/1...ance-tyre-test

[jsf721]

Porsche does the same thing and the dealer will not install a non porsche approved tire. The better imho newer tire technology is not updated. So if you drive an older P car your stuck with older tech or you go off label.

[Neusser]

Originally Posted by jsf721

Porsche does the same thing and the dealer will not install a non porsche approved tire. The better imho newer tire technology is not updated. So if you drive an older P car your stuck with older tech or you go off label.

Many years ago, Audi wouldn't give me an alignment until I installed some of their shitty wheels and mediocre Conti snow tires (who they had a deal with).

"Only Audi wheels could guarantee a proper alignment on a Quattro" vehicle the Audi Schrauber claimed.

[ezaircon4jc]

Got a quote from my dealer for replacement tires for my F10 with staggered tires. They want over $2100 for the set, MUCH higher than either Discount or Costco, by A LOT!

[Joe-BMW33]

Originally Posted by ezaircon4jc

Got a quote from my dealer for replacement tires for my F10 with staggered tires. They want over $2100 for the set, MUCH higher than either Discount or Costco, by A LOT!

That sucks. My dealer charges a small premium for the star tires. Like $50 bucks more per tire than tire rack. It’s not worth the hassle of going elsewhere or having them shipped to a shop and worrying about scratching my wheels.

[silverydragon72]

I asked them for the best price they could do when I was there for some warranty work and needed my tires replaced. They managed to get close with a rebate they had running where it wasn't enough more for me to care to take it to somewhere else. Id recommend you do the same and see what they can do. I basically pointed out that I could go somewhere else for less so how close could they get. I did end up getting an alignment as well as I was already planning to on this set. Next set I will probably just do a replacement.