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      02-21-2020, 10:51 AM   #9659
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Right. The Russians used social media to sway public sentiment. A staggering portion of this country uses facebook as their primary news source, making them remarkably easy targets for disinformation. It was one of many tools in the repertoire.

Can you please enlighten me as to how I have been played to dislike Trump?
Not played to dislike Trump, played by your dislike of Trump. Read my answer to RD - this is getting boring.
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Not played to dislike Trump, played by your dislike of Trump. Read my answer to RD - this is getting boring.
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Imagine in 2020 falling for another NYT/Schiff Russia Collusion hoax story? I mean you'd have to be damn near brain dead to fall for it

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Imagine in 2020 falling for another NYT/Schiff Russia Collusion hoax story? I mean you'd have to be damn near brain dead to fall for it

I thought you guys universally discredited anonymous sources?
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Hit! Unfortunately he's probably at risk of being fired because of it

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"My party is very interested in deficits when there is a Democrat in the White House. The worst thing in the whole world is deficits when Barack Obama was the president," Mulvaney said. "Then Donald Trump became president, and we're a lot less interested as a party."
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“We are desperate — desperate — for more people.” Mulvaney added: “We are running out of people to fuel the economic growth that we’ve had in our nation over the last four years. We need more immigrants.”
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Please point to any source from Democrats that said the Ruskies meddled in the 2018 mid-term elections.

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Trump sure did talk it up. Made all sorts of pledges etc. Why is he not keeping up with that approach?
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      02-21-2020, 12:11 PM   #9665
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Lol. I can't get any, and I mean ANY, anti-Trumper, Democrat, Liberal, or Republican to answer this simple question. If the Ruskies meddled in the 2016 election (and all the ones previously), for the sole purpose of either (a) to get BadOrangeMan elected, or (b) just to screw with us and cause political discord, or (c) Putin hates Hillary, why did the Ruskies let the House fall to the Democrats in 2018? And now the story is, just after the most ridiculous Dem debate on Wednesday, the big announcement the Ruskies are coming, the Ruskies are coming to steal the 2020 election.

The point is, this is all a ruse by the Dems to de-legitamize the reelection of Trump. The Dems won the 2018 election. Approx 40 Republicans gave up their seats and retired, and the Dems gained most of the seats. All that was said was massive shift in the House was in response to the electorate hating Trump. Not one peep about Russian meddling in the 2018 election.

So why didn't Russia mess with 2018? Why would they skip it? Why didn't the Ruskies take the Senate too, so Trump could have been removed from office. That would have caused serious political discord, beyond the impeachment fiasco.

So again why, why didn't Putin just meddle for the pure sport of it at least. If the Russians are that good at influencing and affecting the US election process that they can get the loser to win the popular vote, but the winner only win the Electoral College, why couldn't they control 500 contested elections?
Easy. It is significantly easier to influence one race than 500.

I don't recall anyone saying the Russians were behind the electoral college vs popular vote. That occurred in 2000 as well (and a few times in the 1800s). I don't view it as a ruse or a knock on Trump at all. What I do think is funny is how incredibly insecure HE is about losing the popular vote. It's a hilarious testament to his character.

He won because he targeted a specific, disenfranchised demographic and it worked exactly as planned.

I believe our multiple intelligence agencies when they conclude that it was Russia who hacked the DNC servers and sent the info to Wikileaks. I will say to you the same thing I would say to Trump: Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it didn't happen.
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      02-21-2020, 12:25 PM   #9667
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      02-21-2020, 12:26 PM   #9668
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Ah, so the Russians didn't influence the 2016 election and Trump legitamtely one the Presidency. So what is everyone worried about in 2020 and why did we have the Muller report?

The story is the Russians influenced key districts in 2016 to get Trump elected. Something like it all came down to 75,000 votes in a few key districts in MN, WI, and PA.

500 races has nothing to do with it.
Did you actually read the whole Mueller report?
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So you are saying Trump kept the Ruskies out of the 2018 election so he could lose the House? It was pretty good odds the House was going to the Democrats in 2018, so why would Trump let that happen if he and Vlad are such good buds?
What I said was "Trump sure did talk it up" in 2018, which he did. Whether or not his proclamations made a difference was not addressed by me. Trump's motivations for making all that "Russian interference" noise during the 2018 election cycle were also not mentioned by me.

I'm not much for speculation about stuff like this.
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For the sake of argument I'll assume you are a better person ethically and morally than Trump . But you can't see that Putin is pleased at the division he is witnessing ? For a laugh, watch RT and see how they alternate between laughing at the Dems and blasting Trump. I view RT as PNN (Putin News Network).

I thought the constant Obama bashing was detrimental even though I didn't car for him as a president. The Trump thing is just over the top.

I've asked on here what is the game plan for those that want Trump removed from office. I can't recall getting a clear common answer. Well there is an opportunity to put up a candidate that is less divisive that isn't moving too far to the left to get elected. That opportunity appears to have been blown.
I absolutely agree Putin is playing both sides. It seems to have a greater effect on Trump supporters. I get FOX news updates through applenews, they are quite ferverent, especially on the opinion side. However, I do not recieve or read anything from the"left" side (Mother Jones, Huffpost, MSNBC) often, but from what I've seen, there is not nearly as much misinformation being put out by the left.

Endgame for Trump being gone? Simple......Trump being gone. I'm not a pence fan, but that would be an upgrade.
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Did you actually read the whole Mueller report?
Read the transcript!! Oh, wrong subject......
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Wait.
Putin wants the NATO destroyer Trump for four more years?

Please, just stop it.
Just stop.
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Nope. I have a life. I read the summary. What does that have to do with the question of why didn't we hear anything about the Russians influencing the, or meddling in the 2018 election?
The summary Barr put together?
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Nope. I have a life. I read the summary. What does that have to do with the question of why didn't we hear anything about the Russians influencing the, or meddling in the 2018 election?
I gave you my opinion earlier that 500 races has everything to do with it.

If you read the report, you would have seen that there were several troubling occurrences and the appearance of a massive cover-up.
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I absolutely agree Putin is playing both sides. It seems to have a greater effect on Trump supporters. I get FOX news updates through applenews, they are quite ferverent, especially on the opinion side. However, I do not recieve or read anything from the"left" side (Mother Jones, Huffpost, MSNBC) often, but from what I've seen, there is not nearly as much misinformation being put out by the left.

Endgame for Trump being gone? Simple......Trump being gone. I'm not a pence fan, but that would be an upgrade.
I disagree with the bolded part. First of all there is a whole thread on here about CNN's 'mistakes'. Even Reuters (which I think is one of the more factual sources) is selective in the story coverage and often writes headlines that are cleverly biased.

Honestly, when I watch Fox they are mostly showing CNN et al spouting off nonsense, being very wrong or at least backtracking.

I said this to you about 2 years ago, if Trump resigned, 'they' would be after Pence like stink on __t.
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I absolutely agree Putin is playing both sides. It seems to have a greater effect on Trump supporters. I get FOX news updates through applenews, they are quite ferverent, especially on the opinion side. However, I do not recieve or read anything from the"left" side (Mother Jones, Huffpost, MSNBC) often, but from what I've seen, there is not nearly as much misinformation being put out by the left.

Endgame for Trump being gone? Simple......Trump being gone. I'm not a pence fan, but that would be an upgrade.
I disagree with the bolded part. First of all there is a whole thread on here about CNN's 'mistakes'. Even Reuters (which I think is one of the more factual sources) is selective in the story coverage and often writes headlines that are cleverly biased.

Honestly, when I watch Fox they are mostly showing CNN et al spouting off nonsense, being very wrong or at least backtracking.

I said this to you about 2 years ago, if Trump resigned, 'they' would be after Pence like stink on __t.
FOX Is obsessed with CNN. When I read the news in the morning, that's usually the fifth website I'll go to.

And what they report matches what AP reports, which matches with Reuters reports, which matches what the Wall Street Journal reports, which matches what BBC reports. Frequently, CNN will get Breaking news before most of the other reporting agencies.

FOX Complaining about CNN is like Warren complaining about Bloomberg.
There's a reason for the bias.
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FOX Is obsessed with CNN. When I read the news in the morning, that's usually the fifth website I'll go to.

And what they report matches what AP reports, which matches with Reuters reports, which matches what the Wall Street Journal reports, which matches what BBC reports. Frequently, CNN will get Breaking news before most of the other reporting agencies.

FOX Complaining about CNN is like Warren complaining about Bloomberg.
There's a reason for the bias.
Never would deny that Fox is biased. Like most of the main US sources, it's become one big political opinion piece. But an unedited video clip doesn't lie.

Anyway, I don't watch any news very much. This is half in jest, half in truth - I get most of my news on here.
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I do find it interesting that people who are ostensibly so concerned with Russian meddling are by and large the ones doing everything in their power to help achieve Russia's main goal

"A house divided against itself cannot stand", indeed
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You mean an investigation and report conducted and written by something on the order of 90% of the attornys being Clinton/Democrat donors? The the man who it's named after was basically clueless when asked about it. That report? The one they didn't impeach Trump with?
That's the shield you want to hide behind? Man, Trump really did a number on you guys...
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