BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
BIMMERPOST Universal Forums Off-Topic Discussions Board Politics/Religion NYPD

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      07-24-2019, 06:34 AM   #1
The Chaddening
Brigadier General
The Chaddening's Avatar
7236
Rep
3,797
Posts

Drives: 13' E92 BSM 335i 6MT
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Boulder, CO

iTrader: (0)

NYPD

After the videos went viral of NYPD officers getting water thrown on them in broad daylight, it appears to be escalating:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost....hed-rider/amp/

At what point do they just say “screw it”?
__________________
2013 BSM Coral Red E92 335i 6MT M-Sport
2016 Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk Edition

Psalm 23:1
Appreciate 0
      07-24-2019, 06:53 AM   #2
Grumpy Old Man
Lieutenant Colonel
Grumpy Old Man's Avatar
Canada
6154
Rep
1,975
Posts

Drives: Porsche 993, 2015 MB GLK
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Niagara on the Lake

iTrader: (0)

This behaviour can be really problematic. I suspect the cops would like to fill the gentleman in. And looking at the cop wearing the glasses I suspect the fight would be over really quick. However is it worth the fall out. I can't speak to NY or the US laws, here in Canada there are a few things that could be done, but again you wouldn't likely get the support of the Crown Attorney (prosecutor). Throwing a bucket of water on a cop is assault, we also have a procedural arrest called Breach of the Peace, a police officer can arrest someone who he/she believes is about to Breach the Peace. The arrest is meant to defuse situations but doesn't have the potential to back fire, I think I arrested for Breach maybe twice in 31 years. There is also an offence in Canada called Cause Disturbance, swearing in public, fighting, yelling, screaming, shouting etc. It is rarely used anymore, case law says the police can no longer be disturbed, but this guy might be a possible client for Cause. You'd just need some little old lady on the subway to complain about the gentleman's language. I feel bad for the cops frankly.

Last edited by Grumpy Old Man; 07-24-2019 at 07:01 AM..
Appreciate 2
      07-24-2019, 06:58 AM   #3
obert
Brigadier General
obert's Avatar
United_States
1255
Rep
3,663
Posts

Drives: 2013 328i
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Seattle Wa

iTrader: (43)

They need to start making arrest and putting these people in jail.

Why stand there and let them assault an officer. This is only going to get worse. Unfortunately you have to make people like this fear getting arrested or they will not stop.

This really upsets me. They have zero respect for anyone. They will start to turn their violent behavior towards civilians because they will feel unstoppable by police.
Appreciate 3
      07-24-2019, 07:03 AM   #4
Grumpy Old Man
Lieutenant Colonel
Grumpy Old Man's Avatar
Canada
6154
Rep
1,975
Posts

Drives: Porsche 993, 2015 MB GLK
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Niagara on the Lake

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by obert View Post
They need to start making arrest and putting these people in jail.

Why stand there and let them assault an officer. This is only going to get worse. Unfortunately you have to make people like this fear getting arrested or they will not stop.

This really upsets me. They have zero respect for anyone. They will start to turn their violent behavior towards civilians because they will feel unstoppable by police.
If the cops had of arrested this idiot I thing public support would be mostly positive given the video, but all you need is it to go wrong. But you are right, this needs to be stopped as it will end up getting worse.
Appreciate 0
      07-24-2019, 07:05 AM   #5
cmyx6go
Major
cmyx6go's Avatar
3587
Rep
1,413
Posts

Drives: 2019 X6 ///M
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: NYC

iTrader: (2)

Garage List
2019 X6 ///M  [0.00]
It's because our mayor and the brass do not support the rank and file. It's disgusting. And if this keeps up it will escalate. It's like a dare, let me see what else I can get away with.

How are the cops supposed to react? They are under a microscope for doing their damned jobs. They should all have been arrested.

The anti cop has gone way too far.
__________________
I thought I was a good person but the way I react when people drive slowly in the left lane would suggest otherwise
Appreciate 7
      07-24-2019, 07:07 AM   #6
The Chaddening
Brigadier General
The Chaddening's Avatar
7236
Rep
3,797
Posts

Drives: 13' E92 BSM 335i 6MT
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Boulder, CO

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by cmyx6go View Post
It's because our mayor and the brass do not support the rank and file. It's disgusting. And if this keeps up it will escalate. It's like a dare, let me see what else I can get away with.

How are the cops supposed to react? They are under a microscope for doing their damned jobs. They should all have been arrested.

The anti cop has gone way too far.
If this continues it will undoubtedly end in an officer involved shooting.
__________________
2013 BSM Coral Red E92 335i 6MT M-Sport
2016 Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk Edition

Psalm 23:1
Appreciate 0
      07-24-2019, 07:09 AM   #7
NormanConquest
Brigadier General
2432
Rep
3,506
Posts

Drives: 340i
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Earth

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by obert View Post
They need to start making arrest and putting these people in jail.

Why stand there and let them assault an officer. This is only going to get worse. Unfortunately you have to make people like this fear getting arrested or they will not stop.

This really upsets me. They have zero respect for anyone. They will start to turn their violent behavior towards civilians because they will feel unstoppable by police.
They already assault civilians with milk shakss
Appreciate 0
      07-24-2019, 07:20 AM   #8
obert
Brigadier General
obert's Avatar
United_States
1255
Rep
3,663
Posts

Drives: 2013 328i
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Seattle Wa

iTrader: (43)

Here is Seattle it hasn’t come down to this yet. But we have people getting assaulted daily by repeat criminals with all kinds of issues and they just get released. They are even turning on each other. Just the other day a guy with close to 100 convictions grabbed a coffee and through it on a toddler in a stroller.

IMO it doesn’t matter what people think about making arrests in situations like this. It just needs to be handled ASAP.
Appreciate 1
      07-24-2019, 07:20 AM   #9
G35POPPEDMYCHERRY
Colonel
G35POPPEDMYCHERRY's Avatar
No_Country
2409
Rep
2,724
Posts

Drives: Totaled Toyota Celica :((
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Trenton, NJ

iTrader: (0)

idk. violence and putting hands on a cop is one thing. but you had to know when you signed up; that you will be verbally abused 90% of your job....this ain't chino hills,Pd...its NYC
Appreciate 1
      07-24-2019, 07:29 AM   #10
Grumpy Old Man
Lieutenant Colonel
Grumpy Old Man's Avatar
Canada
6154
Rep
1,975
Posts

Drives: Porsche 993, 2015 MB GLK
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Niagara on the Lake

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by G35POPPEDMYCHERRY View Post
idk. violence and putting hands on a cop is one thing. but you had to know when you signed up; that you will be verbally abused 90% of your job....this ain't chino hills,Pd...its NYC
some people react differently to verbal abuse, I've actually heard the term "verbal assault", which is ridiculous. I've been called just about everything you can think of, insults of my family etc. What ever, but some folks will go off easily and that will end up all over the media.
Appreciate 0
      07-24-2019, 07:29 AM   #11
obert
Brigadier General
obert's Avatar
United_States
1255
Rep
3,663
Posts

Drives: 2013 328i
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Seattle Wa

iTrader: (43)

Quote:
Originally Posted by G35POPPEDMYCHERRY View Post
idk. violence and putting hands on a cop is one thing. but you had to know when you signed up; that you will be verbally abused 90% of your job....this ain't chino hills,Pd...its NYC
The verbal is something that has to be dealt with case by case because your right. But if someone is standing in front of an officers going off on them they should have the right to arrest them for harassment.

Officers get called all kinds of stuff all day long.
Appreciate 0
      07-24-2019, 07:32 AM   #12
G35POPPEDMYCHERRY
Colonel
G35POPPEDMYCHERRY's Avatar
No_Country
2409
Rep
2,724
Posts

Drives: Totaled Toyota Celica :((
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Trenton, NJ

iTrader: (0)

If only society had 1% decency. But we are beset with scum lol. People will continue to yap all day long...could lock him up for disorderly...but they probably have real police work to do...

what sucks about this is. then I get pulled over and get a sour ass cop
Appreciate 0
      07-24-2019, 07:33 AM   #13
obert
Brigadier General
obert's Avatar
United_States
1255
Rep
3,663
Posts

Drives: 2013 328i
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Seattle Wa

iTrader: (43)

Those officers are stuck on the train. As soon as the doors opened they should either walk away or escort the guy off and detain him at the very least for his information to see if he has warrants.

Animal behavior should not be rewarded and this guy will seem like a hero to people just like him.
Appreciate 0
      07-24-2019, 07:38 AM   #14
Grumpy Old Man
Lieutenant Colonel
Grumpy Old Man's Avatar
Canada
6154
Rep
1,975
Posts

Drives: Porsche 993, 2015 MB GLK
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Niagara on the Lake

iTrader: (0)

So recently here in Toronto a video surfaced of Transit enforcement officers arresting a young man, the video of course went viral as the client was a young black man.

The transit officers, were checking for proof of payment and the young man refused to provide proof, and lead off with racism claims and abusive language. He then stepped in close to the officer who pushed him back at which point the young man took a swing at the officer and then was taken to the ground and arrested.

So I have no problem with what the officers did as it would fall within the training. But the outrage was off the charts. And here's the rub, the outrage was mostly based on the fact that the only offence the young man had committed was fare evasion, the fact that he's assaulted the transit officer doesn't seem to matter to people. So the fact that this guy is hurling abuse at the cops will only empower the anti-authority types that any arrest isn't warranted.

They have just announced on the news that the city is thinking of eliminating fare inspectors because of this video in part.....the Toronto Transit Commission currently loses up to $100 million a year in fare evasion.

What a great time we live in...

Last edited by Grumpy Old Man; 07-24-2019 at 07:53 AM..
Appreciate 1
OrcaPod47.00

      07-24-2019, 07:41 AM   #15
gonzo
Lieutenant General
gonzo's Avatar
United_States
8184
Rep
13,594
Posts

Drives: as many as possible
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: TeXXXas

iTrader: (0)

Where are we going as a society?
The young girl filming while giggling, that's where.

Check the moral meter in Seattle and San Francisco.

#itsnottheonething
__________________
Crazy Diamond
Appreciate 2
MKSixer20090.00

      07-24-2019, 07:46 AM   #16
1MOREMOD
2018 track days - 0 ridge 1:52:24 pacific 1:33:30
1MOREMOD's Avatar
United_States
9916
Rep
22,606
Posts

Drives: Race car->
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: check your mirrors

iTrader: (5)

What's wrong with a couple baton whacks to the skull?
Appreciate 1
      07-24-2019, 07:48 AM   #17
cmyx6go
Major
cmyx6go's Avatar
3587
Rep
1,413
Posts

Drives: 2019 X6 ///M
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: NYC

iTrader: (2)

Garage List
2019 X6 ///M  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1MOREMOD View Post
What's wrong with a couple baton whacks to the skull?
For some reason, that is frowned upon....
__________________
I thought I was a good person but the way I react when people drive slowly in the left lane would suggest otherwise
Appreciate 3
MKSixer20090.00
Run Silent13311.50

      07-24-2019, 07:50 AM   #18
obert
Brigadier General
obert's Avatar
United_States
1255
Rep
3,663
Posts

Drives: 2013 328i
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Seattle Wa

iTrader: (43)

When the Chief of police comes out publicly and says they need the support of the city to be able to do their jobs and keep officers from leaving the department for other agencies and they basically get no reply. That should tell you how the city feels about the police and supporting them.

You have to be on very vigilant while walking here in Seattle because you never know if that person will attack you just because they feel like it.
Appreciate 0
      07-24-2019, 07:54 AM   #19
1MOREMOD
2018 track days - 0 ridge 1:52:24 pacific 1:33:30
1MOREMOD's Avatar
United_States
9916
Rep
22,606
Posts

Drives: Race car->
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: check your mirrors

iTrader: (5)

Quote:
Originally Posted by cmyx6go View Post
For some reason, that is frowned upon....
I've seen it happen for people on the field during rain delay at baseball game. People used to have tougher heads I guess.
Appreciate 0
      07-24-2019, 08:09 AM   #20
Jdm4eva
Enlisted Member
77
Rep
49
Posts

Drives: Neptune blue m3
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Bronx

iTrader: (0)

Fuck NYC COPS, Whoever made this thread has to be a pig themselves. NYC cops are dirty, get to know them. Few are good many are corrupt, it’s a rough city!
Appreciate 0
      07-24-2019, 08:12 AM   #21
1MOREMOD
2018 track days - 0 ridge 1:52:24 pacific 1:33:30
1MOREMOD's Avatar
United_States
9916
Rep
22,606
Posts

Drives: Race car->
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: check your mirrors

iTrader: (5)

Crawl back under your rock
Appreciate 2
MKSixer20090.00

      07-24-2019, 08:23 AM   #22
obert
Brigadier General
obert's Avatar
United_States
1255
Rep
3,663
Posts

Drives: 2013 328i
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Seattle Wa

iTrader: (43)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jdm4eva View Post
Fuck NYC COPS, Whoever made this thread has to be a pig themselves. NYC cops are dirty, get to know them. Few are good many are corrupt, it’s a rough city!
Someone hasn’t had there morning butt sex lol

Oh sorry I meant their morning enema lol
Appreciate 2
MKSixer20090.00

Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:08 PM.




5post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST