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      01-27-2020, 08:56 AM   #67
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I want to go somewhere that does not have cold & snow for several months.
This does limit you significantly once you lose CA, because even the deep south gets cold. However, my only 2c is to live somewhere with a major airport. Something that doesn't require a connection every time you want to travel.

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However, my only 2c is to live somewhere with a major airport. Something that doesn't require a connection every time you want to travel.

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There is something to be said for this, but there is also something to be said for the offset.

My local airport has hourly flights to Atlanta which take 50mins. It has 6 gates and the TSA agent is named Robert. Security takes me about 20 seconds. Perhaps 60 seconds if there is a line - by which I mean 1 person in front of me.

This has been a blessing more times than it has been a curse when traveling - and I travel a lot.

Just an alternative point - not saying you are wrong, just that there are pros and cons for both options.
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Get a job that allows you to travel and see what appeals to you. Then plan a move when you have some general idea where you want to be.
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I was born / grew up in Atlanta and just recently moved to Florida. Mega change of pace. But if Atlanta is on the list and you can swing it, live on the north end and get a job on the north end. Living north and commuting south is brutal. Most recently lived in Atlanta and commuted north to Suwanee for work. Plenty of miles, but I'd arrive at my destination in less minutes than miles.

We live in the Big Bend area now which has been great for the most part. Slow city that I can get from one corner to the other in less time than it took me to get to Piedmont Park when I lived a few miles away. We're closing on a house in horse country east of town. Tons of outdoors stuff to do with a surprisingly fantastic infrastructure to promote it, too. Parks galore. No tourists, just FSU fans that stay on the west side. Can get to the beach in under an hour and a really nice one just a little over. No income tax! Careers tend to focus between state / guvment jobs, law, and healthcare.

Sounds to me that you're not completely focused on changing location but more interested in a career change that brings you somewhere new. What do YOU want?
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i can echo similar thoughts about Miami-

1) weather is great and that's probably the #1 plus albeit this Dec and Jan have not been nearly as nice as last year
2) the people here suck, its extremely unfriendly and rude
3) traffic is unlike anything else as you effectively only have 2 highways (I95 and turnpike)

I would always recommend FL... no state income tax, overall lower cost living etc... perhaps this is why it's the state that most people are moving to... but I would probably steer clear of the Miami area unless you are looking for a hectic lifestyle. If my job offered remote work capabilities, there is no chance I would live in this part of FL.
No plans to pick Miami. My friends live in Boynton, Boca, etc.
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Northeast TN, where I live, is fantastic if you don't mind a smaller town vibe. My metro area is about 300,000. The great thing, though, is that I can get to major metro areas in a few hours, so it's there if I want it.

No state income tax, insanely low property taxes, little to no government interference in the economy or general public at large. Growth is amazing here as well. FWIW, I just helped hire a new VP of sales at my company and he is making more here than he was in ATL.



I love Asheville - I live less than an hour away. Fantastic place, but extremely hard to find meaningful employment there. It's like Hawaii - everyone wants to live there, so COL is high, but wages are low and most employment offers are taken within minutes.

That place really should be a model politically for the rest of the country. It's probably about 2/3 extremely far left (think as left or more so than San Francisco). The remaining 1/3 is extremely right wing. They all get along and everyone seems so at ease and welcoming to discuss anything with. They understand that it's just politics and that it doesn't mean you should hate anyone. I am amazed every time I visit there (several times a month) at how friendly and welcoming everyone is of each others differences.
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Specific cities to recommend?
Depends on what you are looking for. Small town of 50,000 - 70,000 people metro?

Johnson City, TN
Sevierville, TN
Pigeon Forge, TN
Gatlinburg, TN
Bristol, TN
Kingsport, TN

Larger metro areas?

Knoxville, TN
Chattanooga, TN
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20 year Houstonian here

Pros: food scene, suburban areas for settling down, nightlife, major airport, sports teams, events (i.e. Houston Auto show), construction being done to mitigate traffic, opportunities for jobs, largest medical center in the world, close to the beach (Galveston), good shopping

Cons: summers are rough and long, humid most of the year, not many touristy attractions to impress visitors, downtown area is weak/not much to do, concrete jungle, hurricanes/flooding
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20 year Houstonian here

Pros: food scene, suburban areas for settling down, nightlife, major airport, sports teams, events (i.e. Houston Auto show), construction being done to mitigate traffic, opportunities for jobs, largest medical center in the world, close to the beach (Galveston), good shopping

Cons: summers are rough and long, humid most of the year, not many touristy attractions to impress visitors, downtown area is weak/not much to do, concrete jungle, hurricanes/flooding
The job market is great there, and pay scales are very good as well. And thats because of the things you mentioned in the Cons. Austin on the other hand has one of the highest costs of living and the lowest pay scales. It's just the way it is.
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20 year Houstonian here

Pros: food scene, suburban areas for settling down, nightlife, major airport, sports teams, events (i.e. Houston Auto show), construction being done to mitigate traffic, opportunities for jobs, largest medical center in the world, close to the beach (Galveston), good shopping

Cons: summers are rough and long, humid most of the year, not many touristy attractions to impress visitors, downtown area is weak/not much to do, concrete jungle, hurricanes/flooding
The job market is great there, and pay scales are very good as well. And thats because of the things you mentioned in the Cons. Austin on the other hand has one of the highest costs of living and the lowest pay scales. It's just the way it is.
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20 year Houstonian here

Pros: food scene, suburban areas for settling down, nightlife, major airport, sports teams, events (i.e. Houston Auto show), construction being done to mitigate traffic, opportunities for jobs, largest medical center in the world, close to the beach (Galveston), good shopping

Cons: summers are rough and long, humid most of the year, not many touristy attractions to impress visitors, downtown area is weak/not much to do, concrete jungle, hurricanes/flooding
The job market is great there, and pay scales are very good as well. And thats because of the things you mentioned in the Cons. Austin on the other hand has one of the highest costs of living and the lowest pay scales. It's just the way it is.
That depends what field you're in. IT would pay far more in Austin vs Houston. And Austin isn't that much more expensive than Houston for cost of living.

Unless you're in oil and gas I wouldn't say Houston pay is high. I doubled my salary moving from Houston to Seattle in a couple years.
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20 year Houstonian here

Pros: food scene, suburban areas for settling down, nightlife, major airport, sports teams, events (i.e. Houston Auto show), construction being done to mitigate traffic, opportunities for jobs, largest medical center in the world, close to the beach (Galveston), good shopping

Cons: summers are rough and long, humid most of the year, not many touristy attractions to impress visitors, downtown area is weak/not much to do, concrete jungle, hurricanes/flooding
The job market is great there, and pay scales are very good as well. And thats because of the things you mentioned in the Cons. Austin on the other hand has one of the highest costs of living and the lowest pay scales. It's just the way it is.
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20 year Houstonian here

Pros: food scene, suburban areas for settling down, nightlife, major airport, sports teams, events (i.e. Houston Auto show), construction being done to mitigate traffic, opportunities for jobs, largest medical center in the world, close to the beach (Galveston), good shopping

Cons: summers are rough and long, humid most of the year, not many touristy attractions to impress visitors, downtown area is weak/not much to do, concrete jungle, hurricanes/flooding
The job market is great there, and pay scales are very good as well. And thats because of the things you mentioned in the Cons. Austin on the other hand has one of the highest costs of living and the lowest pay scales. It's just the way it is.
That depends what field you're in. IT would pay far more in Austin vs Houston. And Austin isn't that much more expensive than Houston for cost of living.

Unless you're in oil and gas I wouldn't say Houston pay is high. I doubled my salary moving from Houston to Seattle in a couple years.
Austin doesn't actually pay people. I work for a Dallas company, my wife for a NY one. Don't come here, nothing to see. Houston rocks.
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Depends on what you are looking for. Small town of 50,000 - 70,000 people metro?

Johnson City, TN
Sevierville, TN
Pigeon Forge, TN
Gatlinburg, TN
Bristol, TN
Kingsport, TN

Larger metro areas?

Knoxville, TN
Chattanooga, TN
Johnson City is high on my list. Love east Tennessee. Iíll start digging in deeper in the upcoming years, but howís the job market in the smaller cities? Continuing no income tax is nice.
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Move where the money is. Otherwise I pick Arizona out of all the states you listed.
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Austin doesn't actually pay people. I work for a Dallas company, my wife for a NY one. Don't come here, nothing to see. Houston rocks.
I always get a chuckle when I read the ďdonít move hereĒ comments by someone who just moved here themselves.
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Northeast TN, where I live, is fantastic if you don't mind a smaller town vibe. My metro area is about 300,000. The great thing, though, is that I can get to major metro areas in a few hours, so it's there if I want it.

No state income tax, insanely low property taxes, little to no government interference in the economy or general public at large. Growth is amazing here as well. FWIW, I just helped hire a new VP of sales at my company and he is making more here than he was in ATL.



I love Asheville - I live less than an hour away. Fantastic place, but extremely hard to find meaningful employment there. It's like Hawaii - everyone wants to live there, so COL is high, but wages are low and most employment offers are taken within minutes.

That place really should be a model politically for the rest of the country. It's probably about 2/3 extremely far left (think as left or more so than San Francisco). The remaining 1/3 is extremely right wing. They all get along and everyone seems so at ease and welcoming to discuss anything with. They understand that it's just politics and that it doesn't mean you should hate anyone. I am amazed every time I visit there (several times a month) at how friendly and welcoming everyone is of each others differences.
Exactly.....we've been around there for years and watched the culture change. People living there that are polar opposites but there are never any issues as everyone is just focused on living life and being happy.
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Depends on what you are looking for. Small town of 50,000 - 70,000 people metro?

Johnson City, TN
Sevierville, TN
Pigeon Forge, TN
Gatlinburg, TN

Bristol, TN
Kingsport, TN

Larger metro areas?

Knoxville, TN
Chattanooga, TN

I think all are great. But the two I highlighted above can get very crowded with tourists...almost to the point where you can't move. And most of them are of the older generation (nothing wrong with that). I think they have been compared to Branson.

But reminiscing with my dad yesterday....every time he would take off for a few days, it would be to go there as he and my mom loved that place.
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Depends on what you are looking for. Small town of 50,000 - 70,000 people metro?

Johnson City, TN
Sevierville, TN
Pigeon Forge, TN
Gatlinburg, TN
Bristol, TN
Kingsport, TN

Larger metro areas?

Knoxville, TN
Chattanooga, TN
I have heard Bristol is beautiful, but havenít really visited yet. Gatlinburg is great but definitely touristy. I would say, anything however in that part of the state is a unique place to live. I personally like Knoxville a lot, and it didnít feel that large the last couple of times I visited. But just large enough to have the airport, and food options etc.
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Austin doesn't actually pay people. I work for a Dallas company, my wife for a NY one. Don't come here, nothing to see. Houston rocks.
I always get a chuckle when I read the “don’t move here” comments by someone who just moved here themselves.
I feel the same about Dallas. Both of these places have just been invaded. And my family has been in Austin for 30 years, so I'm certainly no stranger to it.

Plus I moved to Orange County a few years ago, I tried to pay the Californians back, but 2008 happened so I came back to where the jobs are.
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I have heard Bristol is beautiful, but havenít really visited yet. Gatlinburg is great but definitely touristy. I would say, anything however in that part of the state is a unique place to live. I personally like Knoxville a lot, and it didnít feel that large the last couple of times I visited. But just large enough to have the airport, and food options etc.
Punched in some of those cities in the jobs section of linked in & nothing came up for my work lol
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Move where the money is. Otherwise I pick Arizona out of all the states you listed.
Where is it? Salaries in FL & TX seem to be lower for what I do so far.
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I have heard Bristol is beautiful, but havenít really visited yet. Gatlinburg is great but definitely touristy. I would say, anything however in that part of the state is a unique place to live. I personally like Knoxville a lot, and it didnít feel that large the last couple of times I visited. But just large enough to have the airport, and food options etc.
Personally, out of the 3 tri-cities (Bristol, Johnson City, and Kingsport), Bristol used to be the most depressed. It has had a huge resurgence recently, however, and so long as you stay on the TN side, has a lot to offer. The VA side is still a sh*thole, though.

I enjoy Knoxville, it has everything most folks would want and is much larger than most folks think it is, since there is a large amount of smaller towns that for all intents and purposes are really part of Knoxville (think Turkey Creek, Strawberry Plains, Oak Ridge, etc).

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Johnson City is high on my list. Love east Tennessee. Iíll start digging in deeper in the upcoming years, but howís the job market in the smaller cities? Continuing no income tax is nice.
So I own a home in Johnson City, although I now reside about 45mins outside of town on a mountain, I am still in JC daily.

I love the town.

Job market is pretty good depending on what you are looking at. In general, around here, we tend to struggle to fill roles since the employee pool isn't very good. As such, if you are marketable, you can usually command a strong wage.

I have had a position for an engineer open at my employer now for 111 days. I am willing to offer market rates comparable to large metro areas in an area where COL is much lower, but am still struggling to fill. Plenty of jobs here if you are a solid candidate.
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