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      02-05-2020, 06:40 AM   #67
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I will preface this by saying I wish him a speedy and full recovery. However.....


The Medal of Freedom to fucking Rush Limbaugh?!?!?!?! Fuck outta here with that shit.
I am not gonna say anything no say I agree but do you fellas recall who Obama gave medals of freedom to? Ellen Degeneres was one, a ton of athletes were the rest...

To me it doesn't seem like an award that has any real meaning... I would expect someone that has made real contributions to the country receive one... i.e. someone that saved a lot of people (police etc)... there doesn't seem to be any criteria.
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Pffftt. He handed Pence his copy, no handshake. Handed Pelosi hers, starts turning back around. I'm sure he saw her hand extended mid turn but whatever.

Pelosi holding up her torn copy, while grinning ear to ear, like a trophy was despicable. Republican or democrat, I don't care, that was lowbrow.

Result: Trump wins 2020 with relative ease.
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We'll agree to disagree here.

Neither DJT nor Nancy acquitted themselves well last night. They shone a negative light on both sides of the aisle with their petty actions. Disgraceful all the way around, IMO.
They haven't spoken since the October meeting where she wagged her finger at him.

She is a disrespectful, power mad harpy whom I've seen in action in a non-partisan meeting grab a child with T1 diabetes and pull up to the front of a meeting and accuse the GOP of trying to kill the child when we were having a meeting to raise money for the NIH in 2009.

She's unhinged and needs to retire. She is an embarrassment to the nation.
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I will preface this by saying I wish him a speedy and full recovery. However.....


The Medal of Freedom to fucking Rush Limbaugh?!?!?!?! Fuck outta here with that shit.
I am not gonna say anything no say I agree but do you fellas recall who Obama gave medals of freedom to? Ellen Degeneres was one, a ton of athletes were the rest...

To me it doesn't seem like an award that has any real meaning... I would expect someone that has made real contributions to the country receive one... i.e. someone that saved a lot of people (police etc)... there doesn't seem to be any criteria.
None of these "awards" have any real meaning.

Nobel Peace Prize ring a bell.
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      02-05-2020, 07:03 AM   #71
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I could be wrong, but I don't remember Trump saying he did not want to protect preexisting conditions. He always wanted to remove Obama care, but I thought he kept saying he would still protect pre existing conditions on the new plan during his last run.
Well, Trump says lots of shit.

Remember he and the GOP were going to "repeal and replace" Obamacare on day #1 with something "much better and cheaper".

I'm not questioning his words, I'm questioning his, and the GOP's, actions.

Seems like pre-existing conditions was a pretty large bone of contention back when Ocare was introduced. Am I mis-remembering that?

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I am not gonna say anything no say I agree but do you fellas recall who Obama gave medals of freedom to? Ellen Degeneres was one, a ton of athletes were the rest...

To me it doesn't seem like an award that has any real meaning... I would expect someone that has made real contributions to the country receive one... i.e. someone that saved a lot of people (police etc)... there doesn't seem to be any criteria.
Degeneres is no where near as inflammatory as Limbaugh has been.

I'll agree that the awards are meaningless, but for fuck's sake. This would have been like Obama giving one to Sharpton or Farakan.
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They haven't spoken since the October meeting where she wagged her finger at him.

She is a disrespectful, power mad harpy whom I've seen in action in a non-partisan meeting grab a child with T1 diabetes and pull up to the front of a meeting and accuse the GOP of trying to kill the child when we were having a meeting to raise money for the NIH in 2009.

She's unhinged and needs to retire. She is an embarrassment to the nation.
Two wrongs don't make a right. Whether Pelosi is a shitheel or not doesn't excuse the President's actions.

If you think the no-handshake thing was unintentional, you're only fooling yourself. Not shaking Pence's hand was just an attempt to normalize snubbing Pelosi.

Again, both of them were a disgrace last night.
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Pelosi wasn't tearing up a speech, she was destroying the symbolism of American greatness, to include those people who were recognized and celebrated (at least by the Rs) last night.

There are a lot of Americans, including democrats and independents, who were offended by how the dems acted in general, and Pelosi's actions in particular.
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Afterwards she said she did it because there was not one truth in the speech.
#straightjacket

Great week for Trump and it's only Wednesday.
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There are a lot of Americans, including democrats and independents, who were offended by how the dems acted in general, and Pelosi's actions in particular.
BUT remember... she doesn't hate anyone. Her actions are different than her words.
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I am not gonna say anything no say I agree but do you fellas recall who Obama gave medals of freedom to? Ellen Degeneres was one, a ton of athletes were the rest...

To me it doesn't seem like an award that has any real meaning... I would expect someone that has made real contributions to the country receive one... i.e. someone that saved a lot of people (police etc)... there doesn't seem to be any criteria.
My initial reaction was that it was a bit much. I don't have TDS so didn't get too worked up over it though. You make good points about the past recipients.
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he snubbed her hand shake in the beginning.
He didn't shake pence's hand either...

She also did not introduce him with "high privilege and distinct honor"

We could go back and forth for days. but would you want to shake the hand of someone who so blatantly has been trying to ruin your life/presidency/legacy?
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Degeneres is no where near as inflammatory as Limbaugh has been.

I'll agree that the awards are meaningless, but for fuck's sake. This would have been like Obama giving one to Sharpton or Farakan.
I don't like Limbaugh but he is no where as inflammatory as Sharpton or Farahkan. For fuck's sake - a rape fraud, anit-semitism come to mind right away.
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Two wrongs don't make a right. Whether Pelosi is a shitheel or not doesn't excuse the President's actions.

If you think the no-handshake thing was unintentional, you're only fooling yourself. Not shaking Pence's hand was just an attempt to normalize snubbing Pelosi.

Again, both of them were a disgrace last night.
Did he shake the VPs hand?
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Yeah, its not like he'd show up guns loaded at a pizzeria some whacko jacko was saying was the hub of Hilary Clintons child sex ring LOL.

PS: Classless is refusing to shake the hand of someone who puts it out as a sign of neutrality.
What about the past? Last Union Speech where Nancy clearly made gestures and jokes directed at Trump. Not to mention, there is a possibility he did not even see her hand. But who cares, she is a fucking joke, and there was no sign of neutrality.
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Two wrongs don't make a right. Whether Pelosi is a shitheel or not doesn't excuse the President's actions.

If you think the no-handshake thing was unintentional, you're only fooling yourself. Not shaking Pence's hand was just an attempt to normalize snubbing Pelosi.

Again, both of them were a disgrace last night.

First things first, we don't know if Trump's action were intentional or not, and frankly at this point, I can understand his anger towards that vile woman.

We can not forget the Union Speech in 2019, where she constantly took dabs at Trump through gestures and her address. Her paper ripping was intentional too. So stop trying to put both in the same level, her offense is far, far worse.
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I don't like Limbaugh but he is no where as inflammatory as Sharpton or Farahkan. For fuck's sake - a rape fraud, anit-semitism come to mind right away.
Drug addiction and run ins with John Law come to mind for rush. He also has quite a few unsavory, racist quotes. He got something that Ellen got, and it was basically a stunt show. Like a monster truck doing a flip at Monster Jam.
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I don't like Limbaugh but he is no where as inflammatory as Sharpton or Farahkan. For fuck's sake - a rape fraud, anit-semitism come to mind right away.
He ain't that far off, IMO.

Calling a college student that advocates for birth control insurance coverage a "slut" and a "prostitute", falsely claiming that a losing political candidate posed for nude photos when she was 14 or 15, claiming Michael J Fox was faking his symptoms, etc come to mind right away.
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Did he shake the VPs hand?
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...Not shaking Pence's hand was just an attempt to normalize snubbing Pelosi...
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First things first, we don't know if Trump's action were intentional or not, and frankly at this point, I can understand his anger towards that vile woman.

We can not forget the Union Speech in 2019, where she constantly took dabs at Trump through gestures and her address. Her paper ripping was intentional too. So stop trying to put both in the same level, her offense is far, far worse.
I never claimed one was better or worse. I said they were both disgraceful and I will not change my mind on that.
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