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      05-27-2021, 05:58 AM   #23
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Shouldn't low data mode be 'OFF'?
I have been using wireless Apple Carplay for over two years on the car before this and now and that is the way it is configured default. It works great, so I ain't messing with it.
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      05-27-2021, 01:50 PM   #24
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Well if a new phone doesn't solve it I'm going back to Idrive.

Only thing I will miss is Siri.
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      05-28-2021, 02:25 AM   #25
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Well if a new phone doesn't solve it I'm going back to Idrive.

Only thing I will miss is Siri.
Have you tried a different music service such as Pandora to see if it does it?
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      05-28-2021, 06:09 AM   #26
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I'd be curious how it is with a different phone manufacturer and platform altogether.
If you still have issues, then you know for sure that it's the car, and not the device.

3 other thoughts come to mind:
- you have low data mode turned off: check
- do you have the hotspot capability enabled on your phone? if you do, try turning that off?
- tried deleting both bluetooth and wifi network for your car from your phone and readding both? (you'd have to delete the phone from the car as well)

(you've likely already tried the last when you did your network connections reset - but just mentioning it out of completeness)

oh yeah, last thing - ios 14.6 just came out a couple of days ago - supposedly 'faster' than prior versions because of whatever the hell they fixed in the internals. worth a shot?
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Thank for the advise I have tried all of the above.

Also tried another phone today and same issue so seems it's car side or a fault in iOS.

I see plenty of other people online the same issue so seems it's random if iOS related.

Waiting a new phone and will report back.
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This is the strange thing joe I'm not even using a streaming service it's the music on my phone that is problematic.

Now you say it I'm going to try streaming radio or a streaming service see if it could be related to the files on my phone.


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This is the strange thing joe I'm not even using a streaming service it's the music on my phone that is problematic.

Now you say it I'm going to try streaming radio or a streaming service see if it could be related to the files on my phone.


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Have you tried a different music service such as Pandora to see if it does it?
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So the files are actually on your phone and you play them with Apple Music, right?
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Correct haven't tired streaming from Spotify or similar to see if that stops the problem.

Maybe I'm sending too much across the WiFi network on the car.

If streaming works that would be a perfect solution I can just subscribe to Apple Music and go full streaming as it pulls your own collection from the stream not the phone.

My music file are very high quality so are large.
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Correct haven't tired streaming from Spotify or similar to see if that stops the problem.

Maybe I'm sending too much across the WiFi network on the car.

If streaming works that would be a perfect solution I can just subscribe to Apple Music and go full streaming as it pulls your own collection from the stream not the phone.

My music file are very high quality so are large.
I agree with your hunch. Basically you are streaming large local files over weak Wifi from your phone. I don't believe there is any buffering functionality built in. Streaming services have advanced compression, decompression and buffering techniques. The reason why these files play fine over iDrive is because that's using Bluetooth which is made for audio (and voice).

I bit the bullet when Apple Music came out and gave up on buying music and collecting files. I still have my library via Apple Music. I also pay $25 a year for Music Match which is little known and little used, but what is does is scan your personal library and matches it in the cloud is the song is on Apple Music and if it's not it uploads it. My son is an artist and makes his own music. It's fun having his 13 year old stuff in my library. In terms of Music Match, Apple Music does the same thing excluding the music not in Apple Music (like my sons). So it's probably a waste of money and super confusing in terms of why you need both. I still don't get it, but for $25 a year I don't want to break what's not broken.
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Thank joe gonna try that.. it's my special edition music I will miss most as my collection is 30 years of music but as long as 99% matches through Apple Music I would be happy. That music match thing sounds interesting I must have a look at.
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Thank joe gonna try that.. it's my special edition music I will miss most as my collection is 30 years of music but as long as 99% matches through Apple Music I would be happy. That music match thing sounds interesting I must have a look at.
If you want everything including random MP3's, music match is the way to go. I believe you need to subscribe through iTunes on the machine where your music is. It will upload over the course of a day or so. Had it since I got divorced 10 years ago. At the time it was a way for me to get at my music while not living in the house I moved out of. This was all before Apple Music started. I could basically access it with the old iTunes app on the phone and stream it.
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I'm curious as to how large your files are / what encoding etc.

Apple Music (with the app) is just MP3/AAC ...

but yes, streaming adds yet another variable.

What version of idrive are you on?
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On idrive 6 and latest versions I step etc.

File are high bitrate so larger than normal with embedded data.

Anyone know where the WiFi antenna is located on the car can't see it on real oem.
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I just stopped using CarPlay this weekend and I'm so happy. Such an annoying implementation.
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Starting to think maybe the WiFi antenna has disconnected or missing since build. My car had apple car play prep but based on the feedback from those installing it as a retrofit without the aerial it displays the same issues my car does.

Only connects reliably if in the charging tray.

I see fakra connectors can fail so perhaps that's the issue.have a new aerial ordered and will pull the dash apart next week or two and see if it's missing or disconnected/ either way a new one is going in.
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If that doesn't work then no more apple car play for me.
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Got my phone back, very weird apple include a letter that's informed me the phone was fine passed all check yet they updated some internal firmware on certain units and the problem may now be resolved.

Clearly the screen was removed and a new one is installed.

So far the apple car play is much better only a few drops when I'm in high traffic WiFi areas.

The letter makes me suspect they know there is an issue and won't admit it otherwise why send me back the same phone with a new screen etc after being inside the unit. They don't want a tidal wave of claims I suspect and won't admit an issue.

Perplexing to say the least.
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Apple car play working perfectly since phone came back from apple wonder what they did.
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Just to add an update and close this thread..it's a few weeks since apple took my phone and did something but won't say what.(see above).

I also stated using Apple Music a few days after my last post instead of Spotify which allowed me offload the library from my phone and it's still available as a stream

Zero drops … literally none since the above swap to Apple Music.

So either apple fixed the phone or the key here is don't try to keep your library on the phone and stream it to apple car play as it can't handle the data stream over the WiFi router in car.
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I just stopped using CarPlay this weekend and I'm so happy. Such an annoying implementation.
Not sure why it is annoying. I use CarPlay all the time and think it is a fantastic implementation. If it was not, I would not be using it. Waze, Apple Music, Apple Maps, Podcasts, etc. all seem to work well for me and will only get better as Apple continues to improve it.
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Not sure why it is annoying. I use CarPlay all the time and think it is a fantastic implementation. If it was not, I would not be using it. Waze, Apple Music, Apple Maps, Podcasts, etc. all seem to work well for me and will only get better as Apple continues to improve it.
+1, it's all I use. I have never used the car's navigation or BT audio. The only time I am actually in iDrive is to change a setting, listen to Sirius or local Sports Radio.
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