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      12-30-2015, 10:21 PM   #1
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F90 M5 - hydraulically assisted or E-Steering?

Has anyone seen any literature regarding whether the next-gen G30 M5/5-series will have electronically assisted or hydraulic steering?
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It will have Electric Steering. Enjoy steering feel while you still can.
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It will have Electric Steering. Enjoy steering feel while you still can.
Yup
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      12-31-2015, 11:03 AM   #4
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It will have Electric Steering. Enjoy steering feel while you still can.
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      12-31-2015, 12:01 PM   #5
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Drove my Dad's new 2016 MX-5 Miata over this Christmas Break. I was surprised to see that even that car now has Electric Steering. Absolutely no feel at all but like BMW very precise. Unfortunately I didn't enjoy the driving feel, but I can see how important it is for the ES system to make the weight of the Miata lighter than the previous generation.

I feel like unless you are getting a Porsche, Electric Steering feel is going to suck.
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The new Jaguar F Type has newly developed Electric Power Steering. It's as good as their previous hydraulic set-up, they say.

I guess it depends on who is implementing it and how it is implemented....
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Drove my Dad's new 2016 MX-5 Miata over this Christmas Break. I was surprised to see that even that car now has Electric Steering. Absolutely no feel at all but like BMW very precise. Unfortunately I didn't enjoy the driving feel, but I can see how important it is for the ES system to make the weight of the Miata lighter than the previous generation.

I feel like unless you are getting a Porsche, Electric Steering feel is going to suck.
I drove a ford transit connect for this past week. With 4 adults + 1 monkey + luggage, it took over 19 seconds to do 0-60. Steering feel was umm completely lacking, and the engine made funny noises whenever I pressed the gas pedal - it made a lot of noise but never translated to any actual movement. Complete opposite of M5 - before I know I am in danger zone.

When we came back to NY, I took the excuse of getting milk to drive the M5 and I was redeemed.
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That's too bad because the steering feel has been getting worse by the year. IMO F10 M5 steering isn't great but average relative to past offerings. Perhaps they will figure out a way to improve upon it with electric.
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Great article on Electric Steering.

http://blog.caranddriver.com/steer-c...lectric-world/
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I'm no M5 driver but in terms of steering feel, the best I've encountered to date by a long long way was the E39 (not V8) . Nice and heavily weighted, you knew exactly what the front wheels were doing.
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Makes me want to just buy an e39 M5 and keep forever.
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Makes me want to just buy an e39 M5 and keep forever.
No kidding. Although I have my eye on a 6MT E60 M5 first before I get the E39.
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I drove a ford transit connect for this past week. With 4 adults + 1 monkey + luggage, it took over 19 seconds to do 0-60. Steering feel was umm completely lacking, and the engine made funny noises whenever I pressed the gas pedal - it made a lot of noise but never translated to any actual movement. Complete opposite of M5 - before I know I am in danger zone.

When we came back to NY, I took the excuse of getting milk to drive the M5 and I was redeemed.
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