BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
BMW 5-Series (G30) Forum 2017+ BMW 5 Series (G30) General Discussions Official: BMW 5-Series Sedan (G30) Wallpapers, Specs, Press Release

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      10-12-2016, 07:51 PM   #89
RPiM5
Major General
RPiM5's Avatar
2437
Rep
7,819
Posts

Drives: Mexico Blue F10 M5(Mika)
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Sunny San Diego

iTrader: (0)

Two things I really cared about for the G30 were the new physical size dimensions and the curb weight.

Let's see G30 is 1.2" longer, 0.3" wider, and 0.6" taller than the F10. That's a big increase in size. Good for the back seat passengers for sure, as even the wheel base has been increased by 0.2" but I am not looking for a bigger car than the F10. 1.2" increase in length is significant as well as the 0.6" increase in height. There's just no hiding the fact that the G30 is a BIG car. How big you might be wondering, well here are some comparisons

G30 5-Series:

- Length: 194.6"
- Height: 58.2"
- Width: 73.5"

F01 7-Series (Standard Wheel Base Version):

- Length: 199.7"
- Height: 58.2"
- Width: 74.9"

E65 7-Series (Standard Wheel Base Version):

- Length: 198.4"
- Height: 58.7"
- Width: 74.9"

2017 W213 Mecedes E-Class:

- Length: 193.8"
- Height: 57.8"
- Width: 72.9"

Second, the weight comparison.

Based off of the info on BMWUSA.com, the F10 535i has a U.S. curb weight of 3,957lbs. While according to today's info the G30 540i has a U.S. curb weight of 3,847lbs. This corresponds to a 110lbs weight reduction from two directly comparable models, the BMW 535i and 540i. This is a pretty good reduction in weight, but I was hoping for more honestly. However based on this information I just don't see how ///M Division is going to be able to knock off more than another 100lbs for the next M5. Losing weight is hard, and with all of this new tech inside of the 5-Series that's going to make it even harder for the next M5 to drop pounds. Owing to this new information today, I predict that we won't see any more than a 250lbs weight drop from the F10 M5 to the F90 (G80) M5. Which by the way the 2016 Cadillac CTS-V already weighs 250lbs less than the F10 M5 today. Granted the CTS-V doesn't have a lot of the fancy tech that BMW has though.

http://www.bmwusa.com/Standard/Conte...fications.aspx

In the end, I like the new G30 5-Series, but I was hoping for more progress in terms of weight reduction. I'm not sure if we're ever going to get there if they keep making the car bigger and adding more technological features, but hey thanks to Tesla and their self driving cars, it's what people want these days, and nobody seems to care that the Model S weighs over 4,900lbs.
__________________



Last edited by RPiM5; 10-12-2016 at 08:03 PM..
Appreciate 2
M5essex633.00
E9TOU226.00

      10-12-2016, 07:53 PM   #90
Paul-Bracq-BMW
Moderator
Paul-Bracq-BMW's Avatar
Australia
3801
Rep
1,985
Posts

Drives: 1981 323i, sports M5, LSD
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Australia

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by KoenG View Post
Yes, you're right. Seems out of place for a premium sedan. I wonder how this looks like on a basic trim with std rims&tires. Rather immature and ridiculous I'am afraid. On full spec M, I wouldn't mind.
You want basic, you get basic. The German 520d ED!

I'd say does not look too much like a hockey stick...
Attached Images
  
__________________
1981 323i, 143 Kashmir-Metallic, 0094 Pergament, Sports M5, LSD.
Appreciate 0
      10-12-2016, 07:56 PM   #91
Paul-Bracq-BMW
Moderator
Paul-Bracq-BMW's Avatar
Australia
3801
Rep
1,985
Posts

Drives: 1981 323i, sports M5, LSD
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Australia

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by KoenG View Post
Thanks for this! G30 looks certainly slimmer and more predator but also more busy. The F10 seems more limousine and composed. No revolution, only evolution, I agree.
I'd say because of the wider kidneys and elongated shape of the headlights, the G30 looks wider and the F10 "rounder"...
__________________
1981 323i, 143 Kashmir-Metallic, 0094 Pergament, Sports M5, LSD.
Appreciate 0
      10-12-2016, 08:05 PM   #92
Germanauto
Brigadier General
Germanauto's Avatar
United_States
3472
Rep
3,104
Posts

Drives: BMW, Lexus
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: NW, SoCal

iTrader: (0)

Bravo!!!!

Now if it just drives a little more like a BMW than the F10 did it will be an amazing ride!
Appreciate 1
Wills25217.00

      10-12-2016, 08:06 PM   #93
goj
Brigadier General
goj's Avatar
United_States
2176
Rep
3,610
Posts

Drives: 2016 EBII 340i 6-MT
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Bay Area, CA

iTrader: (0)

This is a complete win and soon to be a huge success
__________________
BMW CCA Member #516012
2016 340i, Estoril Blue, Manual Transmission, MPE, APEX EC-7
Instagram: @brandonsclean3
Appreciate 1
GeorgeA293.00

      10-12-2016, 08:12 PM   #94
GeorgeA
Captain
GeorgeA's Avatar
United_States
293
Rep
940
Posts

Drives: E92 M3
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Los Angeles, CA

iTrader: (1)

Looks fantastic! So much nicer than the E class... good job BMW
Appreciate 2
goj2176.00
marcu73.00

      10-12-2016, 08:14 PM   #95
AntonySMith
Private
89
Rep
50
Posts

Drives: no car
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: USA

iTrader: (0)

New 5 Series - Intelligent Connectivity and Operating systems

Appreciate 1
Pentium113.50

      10-12-2016, 08:15 PM   #96
M5essex
Lieutenant Colonel
M5essex's Avatar
England
633
Rep
1,701
Posts

Drives: RR sport SVR, Vent S, 650s spi
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Essex UK

iTrader: (0)

I think I prefer the current F10 to be honest.. love the seats though.. why the F have the option to up the speed from 130 to 155? Just give us 155 from the get go... bastards!
__________________
Current - 2016 McLaren 650s Spider, Aurora Blue
Current - 2016 Range Rover Sport SVR- Black
Current- 2018 Aventador S. Nereid blue
Gone - 2016 F80 CP, 2015 991 Turbo S, 2016 LCI M135i. 2015 F10 CP M5. 2015 X5, 2012 E92 CP M3. 2009 E92 335i
Appreciate 0
      10-12-2016, 08:18 PM   #97
Eddien123
Colonel
United_States
1053
Rep
2,206
Posts

Drives: F30 335 6MT
Join Date: May 2013
Location: New Jersey

iTrader: (0)

I really didn't think they could top the F10 but they did... Wow
Appreciate 0
      10-12-2016, 08:20 PM   #98
Pentium
Captain
Pentium's Avatar
United_States
114
Rep
742
Posts

Drives: BMW 335i
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Los Angeles

iTrader: (0)

WOW!!

Well done BMW!! Well done!!

Like every aspect!!
__________________
The Best Is Yet To Come!
E36 - E39 - E53 - E60 - E87 - E90
Appreciate 1
      10-12-2016, 08:24 PM   #99
AKRAPOVICOWNS
Captain
536
Rep
639
Posts

Drives: bmw 335i
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: brazil

iTrader: (0)

Looks better in the video, but in some takes while driving, i almost mistaken it for the lci f30. That's crazy
Appreciate 1
Ganxxta80.50

      10-12-2016, 08:25 PM   #100
Xccelerate
The Gears
Xccelerate's Avatar
44
Rep
215
Posts

Drives: WDD - 16 340i sedan
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: NJ

iTrader: (0)

Looks gorgeous sad the v8 has gone away.
__________________
16' 340i sedan Min. Grey on Red M Sport 8 speed|BBS CI-R|Rear Perf Spoiler|Front Perf Spoiler
11' 1M Coupe Valencia 6MT OEM+ 289 of 740
Appreciate 0
      10-12-2016, 08:28 PM   #101
bimmermaus650
Private
bimmermaus650's Avatar
United_States
63
Rep
79
Posts

Drives: BMW F13 650i
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Dallas, TX

iTrader: (0)

Absolutely stunning! Great post, I didn't want it to end.
__________________

F13 650i M Sport Space Gray/Vermillion Red "Gisele"
Appreciate 0
      10-12-2016, 08:31 PM   #102
krautmeister
krrrraaauuuuut
krautmeister's Avatar
United_States
120
Rep
435
Posts

Drives: F10 550i M-Sport
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Atlanta

iTrader: (0)

Looks great! Maybe should have waited for my F10 to depreciate more!

I do see however, since Audi is splashing that S-Line badge across anything above standard... BMW is following suit with ///M. I do love seeing that in my M Sport F10, but maybe a bit contrived on the quarter panels.
__________________
2013 550i / M-Sport / 704 / Comfort Access / Exec Pkg / Dinan 20s / Megan Axle Back / M5 Diffuser
Appreciate 0
      10-12-2016, 08:34 PM   #103
GeorgeA
Captain
GeorgeA's Avatar
United_States
293
Rep
940
Posts

Drives: E92 M3
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Los Angeles, CA

iTrader: (1)

What is this color??

http://g30.bimmerpost.com/goodiesfor...67_highRes.jpg
Appreciate 0
      10-12-2016, 08:35 PM   #104
ThaiBruin
Captain
ThaiBruin's Avatar
United_States
119
Rep
610
Posts

Drives: F10 535i M-Sport
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Playa Vista, CA

iTrader: (0)

I think it's a great design... and I'm also glad it's not drastically different than the F10, given I just got my F10 2 months ago.
__________________
2014 Carbon Black 535i M Sport - Bootmod3 / M Performance Exhaust / Carbon Graphite Vorsteiner V-FF 103 / KW V2
Retired- 2013 MG 328i Sport Line 6MT - BMS Stage 1 / M Performance exhaust / M Performance steering wheel / M Performance shift knob/boot
Appreciate 0
      10-12-2016, 08:35 PM   #105
Daftasabrush
Fool
Daftasabrush's Avatar
England
1712
Rep
3,455
Posts

Drives: F31 340i
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: England

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by GeorgeA
Work suit blue
__________________
Appreciate 1
JTO242302.00

      10-12-2016, 08:36 PM   #106
GeorgeA
Captain
GeorgeA's Avatar
United_States
293
Rep
940
Posts

Drives: E92 M3
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Los Angeles, CA

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Daftasabrush View Post
Work suit blue
Actual production color or some sort of coating? So confused by this.
Appreciate 0
      10-12-2016, 08:38 PM   #107
richard in NC
Lieutenant Colonel
United_States
250
Rep
1,637
Posts

Drives: 2009 Z4 35i
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Charlotte, NC

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Xccelerate View Post
Looks gorgeous sad the v8 has gone away.
Sounds like the V8 M550i is a few months later intro.
__________________
2018 M550i: Med Blue, Mocha : Exec Pkg, Driver Asst & Plus, DHP, 759s, More...
2020 M2 Comp, Sunset Orange/Blk: Orange stitching, DCT, exec pkg, bicolor rims
Gone '16 X4 M40i, '15 M5, '13 X3 35i, '12 335is, '11 X5 50i, '09 Z4 35i, '08 550i, 06 X3, 06 650i, '02 M5, '99 540i
Appreciate 0
      10-12-2016, 08:39 PM   #108
AntonySMith
Private
89
Rep
50
Posts

Drives: no car
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: USA

iTrader: (0)

2017 BMW 5 Series Exterior
Appreciate 0
      10-12-2016, 08:39 PM   #109
stvding
Major
stvding's Avatar
Canada
522
Rep
1,427
Posts

Drives: G20 M340ix
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Markham

iTrader: (0)

iDrive 6.0 already? Damn.. my 4.2 looks like windows 95 now...
Appreciate 0
      10-12-2016, 08:43 PM   #110
remmib
General
remmib's Avatar
Norway
1259
Rep
28,940
Posts

Drives: 2013 F10 520d M-Sport
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Norway

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Xccelerate
Looks gorgeous sad the v8 has gone away.
M550i will have V8, 462 HP and 0-100 km/h or 0-62 mph in 4 sec.
__________________

F10 520d M-Sport Alpine White | HRE P43SC 20x9+20x11 | Michelin PSS 255/35+295/30 | KW V3 Coilover | M5 Front Sway Bar + M550d Rear Sway Bar | 3DDesign Front Lip | BMW M Performance CF Spoiler | BMW M Performance Diffuser | BMW M Performance Black Grills | BMW M Performance Pedals |
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:50 AM.




5post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST