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      02-01-2017, 11:08 AM   #67
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      02-01-2017, 11:19 AM   #69
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I know this is a BMW forum, but this is a 20+ year US owner sorting out options with a product gap in BMW's line.
Isn't it ironic that they've made/are developing an X1-7 line to "cover the whole market" but won't give us the damn wagons they already make!
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      02-01-2017, 11:23 AM   #70
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Because back when they did sell them hardly any sold in the USA.

In contrast, in some European markets the 3 Series Touring for example outsells the Sedan.


Here they cannot sell Tourings either as they are seen as "mommy vans" and no male will drive them.
So they were pulled from the market
I would say that in Sweden the five series wagon outsells the sedan by 10 : 1. At least.
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      02-01-2017, 11:26 AM   #71
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nope, first line (not available in North America)
Of course not. Might cut into the fat ass SUV sales. F'm I would jump on a v8 or M5. RS6 Avant looks mad as hell too.
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      02-01-2017, 11:30 AM   #72
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That's absolutely it. If you asked most people, would they rather have a 3 series Touring or an X3 for about the same price?

Besides, even at their peak when they were building E46 and E39 Tourings, how many do you actually see on the road? I almost never see them.

Personally, I'm a huge fan of Tourings, and this G31 530d would be my ultimate DD. What a shame we don't get it, it's even better than the G30.
I hear your point, but the same can be said for diesel. And to be fair, I would hardly see any at the dealerships too (touring, that is). I guess supply and demand curve is a lot flatter in the US.
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      02-01-2017, 11:37 AM   #73
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If 'mericuhans would stop buying so many stupid SUV's, we could have useful CARS again.

Unfortunately, they are ruining it for Canadians as well.
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      02-01-2017, 12:00 PM   #74
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Awesome! Thank you for sharing.
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No word about the M550i...when will this engine be available? Does anybody has info about it?
I have had my fingers crossed for a RHD 550i or M5...can't see it likely coz the Poms like their diesels far too much
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I don't understand why these Germans do not think that there is a market for Vagens here in the U.S. I'm assuming that according to market analysis, fat Americans would rather buy SUVs than Wagons because they can fit more groceries inside of it?
And cause they don't look as lame. Plus Americans generally like higher seating positions.
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      02-01-2017, 12:29 PM   #77
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Please stop posting the G30 Touring porn when we cannot access it in the United States.

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      02-01-2017, 12:30 PM   #78
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Perhaps we (I) should stop whining and try to rally a petition. One of the problems I see is that the US market has been brainwashed to believe that the only way to survive the slightest bit of inclement weather is with an AWD SUV. The truck marketing machine here in the US did a good job and it's stuck as a cultural norm. I'm viewed as psychotic by onlookers because I drive my M3 in snow. What better time to drive then when the all the world's a skidpad. I'll try posting a petition link over at Bimmerforums, and I'll see about communicating into the CCA. In the meantime, people should vote here if they're interested.

Obama was right. If you don't like something, get out and do something about it...
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We definitely should.
I know for a fact that's how Audi was able to bring the very first TT-RS in the US market.
Audi people/forum members signed a petition (including Facebook) for it and Audi listened.
If TT-RS can do it, 5 series touring definitely can do it too, time to make some business case BMW NA.
Stop being a pussy because of the numbers. You know cars are not all about the numbers.
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I heard that the M550i will NOT be coming to the U.K. Market, quite disappointed with this
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Always love hearing Americans complain that the 5-series touring isn't available in the US anymore. Looks like you all want one now. But where were you when BMW *was* selling them?
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Always love hearing Americans complain that the 5-series touring isn't available in the US anymore. Looks like you all want one now. But where were you when BMW *was* selling them?
too young and too poor...still too poor
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Always love hearing Americans complain that the 5-series touring isn't available in the US anymore. Looks like you all want one now. But where were you when BMW *was* selling them?
In a different demographic. Things change.
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      02-01-2017, 02:54 PM   #83
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This is funny.
BMW makes an English marketing statement showing a left hand drive car, which will not be sold in a native English speaking country with right side street driving
(I guess US/Canada would be the only two)

This reminds me of the fabulous Eddie: "you don't have no ice cream"

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      02-01-2017, 03:08 PM   #84
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Great to see more of those sports seats too.
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If only we were back in the 80s when "substantially similar" meant something...
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http://www.motortrend.com/news/2018-...r-year-603-hp/ Meanwhile in Mercedes HQ...
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Did not know South Africa followed the lead of North America and removed the Tourings also? Will need to find out why? Is it the SUV effect?
In North America for example you have the 3er Touring being outsold by the X3. A relatively new model against an almost 7 year old SAV.

The upcoming X3 will feature a similar level of finesse as demonstrated by the 5er and 7er models. And will be up-to-date with the latest technology as well as some new features and advancements. Following that in 2018 will be an all new X5 model that will have an even greater sales advantage.
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When will this be available in the states?
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