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      02-01-2017, 07:52 PM   #89
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Always love hearing Americans complain that the 5-series touring isn't available in the US anymore. Looks like you all want one now. But where were you when BMW *was* selling them?
Bought an E34 touring, E39 touring, E46 touring and an E61 touring.
Now, the wife has an X540e. If there was a G31 (especially a PHEV), I'd buy it for sure.
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Buy one. Please sell me one with Msport.

Can anybody really be buying the FUGLY GT instead of these?

Makes no sense.
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Bought an E34 touring, E39 touring, E46 touring and an E61 touring.
Now, the wife has an X540e. If there was a G31 (especially a PHEV), I'd buy it for sure.
I bet BMW NA is wishing there were more of you, but I think you were in the minority. My wife (an American) would rather walk than be seen in a "station wagon".
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I bet BMW NA is wishing there were more of you, but I think you were in the minority. My wife (an American) would rather walk than be seen in a "station wagon".
Thats funny, my girlfriend says you don't drive a wagon you drive a BMW. She was busting my chops because someone asked what I was driving now and I said a black wagon (I am known for rotating through the cars pretty quickly). Usually ends the conversation when I say that cause I could care less what people think of what I drive.

Would I rather have a 340i wagon with a stick yes. Would I rather have a 550 xdrive wagon - duh.

But BMW won't sell me one. How does MB make a case for the E63 wagon but BMW can't for the 550 wagon or M5 for that matter?

Unfortunately I think my next car is going to be an E63 wagon unless I sell out completely and get an X5M.
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Always love hearing Americans complain that the 5-series touring isn't available in the US anymore. Looks like you all want one now. But where were you when BMW *was* selling them?
Not this American. Touring models are so ugly. Y'all keep em
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Did not know South Africa followed the lead of North America and removed the Tourings also? Will need to find out why? Is it the SUV effect?
In North America for example you have the 3er Touring being outsold by the X3. A relatively new model against an almost 7 year old SAV.

The upcoming X3 will feature a similar level of finesse as demonstrated by the 5er and 7er models. And will be up-to-date with the latest technology as well as some new features and advancements. Following that in 2018 will be an all new X5 model that will have an even greater sales advantage.
I guess that the fact of the X3 being 15% cheaper must have nothing to do with this.... So a car that came for MY2011 is so much older that a car that came for MY2014 but based on a MY2012 redesign. Lack of 6cyl engine, lack of manual transmission, no publicity and no rebate. All factors that must have help the F31 to sell so good
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Mercedes is much more proactive to their customers. They just released the E63S Estate: http://gtspirit.com/2017/02/02/offic...e-63-s-estate/

Maybe they know how to market and sell them better than BMW??

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I guess that the fact of the X3 being 15% cheaper must have nothing to do with this.... So a car that came for MY2011 is so much older that a car that came for MY2014 but based on a MY2012 redesign. Lack of 6cyl engine, lack of manual transmission, no publicity and no rebate. All factors that must have help the F31 to sell so good
The 3-series Touring should be done with soon as well, if I recall correctly. At that point, there will be no Tourings left to be purchased through BMW. Alternatives are the A4 allroad and the E-class.
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If this puts anyone in the mood for a fast German wagon, my E63 wagon is currently for sale

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I guess that the fact of the X3 being 15% cheaper must have nothing to do with this.... So a car that came for MY2011 is so much older that a car that came for MY2014 but based on a MY2012 redesign. Lack of 6cyl engine, lack of manual transmission, no publicity and no rebate. All factors that must have help the F31 to sell so good
The 3-series Touring should be done with soon as well, if I recall correctly. At that point, there will be no Tourings left to be purchased through BMW. Alternatives are the A4 allroad and the E-class.
Yes that's right but what's wrong is BMW attitude with the touring. They never help it in the marketing department and now they complain that the sales are not good enough.
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Great to see more of those sports seats too.
Looks like it's more towards comfort than sportseats, like the one you'll find in the F15. Have er seen the G30 with the top of the line Comfort seats yet?
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Looks like it's more towards comfort than sportseats, like the one you'll find in the F15. Have er seen the G30 with the top of the line Comfort seats yet?
Looking at the configurator, the sport seats has larger side bolsters than the comfort seats. And I believe the side bolster are adjustable now (wasn't on the F10), so that's great.

Yes, I've seen the g30 with comfort seats.
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Going to order one of these later this year since my F31 lease is up next February.

http://jalopnik.com/the-603-horsepow...com-1791910058

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Bought an E34 touring, E39 touring, E46 touring and an E61 touring.
Now, the wife has an X540e. If there was a G31 (especially a PHEV), I'd buy it for sure.
We can hope! That would be a nice build G31 530e M Sport, would be awesome
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Is it the Germans, or BMW NA? Surely it is your side of the pond where the decision is made on what models sell well enough to put through type approval and fully support.

Same here in the UK, we don't normally get engine and gearbox options/models which don't sell in enough numbers.

We do like our 'wagons' over here.

BMW NA, but they must assuredly answer to BMW Helga Corporate back in Bavaria
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Going to order one of these later this year since my F31 lease is up next February.

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Mercedes-Benz interior is hideous. Otherwise I would shop for one.
BMW lost another long time customer here also. Not that they need me.
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When is BMW going to make an M3 Touring with M xDrive and offer it in the States?
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I guess that the fact of the X3 being 15% cheaper must have nothing to do with this.... So a car that came for MY2011 is so much older that a car that came for MY2014 but based on a MY2012 redesign. Lack of 6cyl engine, lack of manual transmission, no publicity and no rebate. All factors that must have help the F31 to sell so good
The 3-series Touring should be done with soon as well, if I recall correctly. At that point, there will be no Tourings left to be purchased through BMW. Alternatives are the A4 allroad and the E-class.
And there is also Volvo as well. Clearly most of the other luxury manufacturers see the US MARKET differently than BMW.

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