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      04-30-2017, 05:42 PM   #1
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Valentine one radar detector going crazy

So my brother picked up a 540xi. He doesn't have any of the blind stuff warning systems. We installed the V1 and the laser detection is going off like crazy. I even tried with my own V1 and it does the same. We prefer not to turn off the laser detector option on the V1. For now he can simply press the button and mute the sound.

Anyone have a similar issue? If so what did you do excluding turning off the laser detection system.

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Does it behave similarly when in your car? Valentine did update the V1's laser detection to filter out laser hits from other cars' blind spot monitoring systems.

Side question: had your brother found out how to hardware his V1 yet?
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Does it behave similarly when in your car? Valentine did update the V1's laser detection to filter out laser hits from other cars' blind spot monitoring systems.

Side question: had your brother found out how to hardware his V1 yet?
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Does it behave similarly when in your car? Valentine did update the V1's laser detection to filter out laser hits from other cars' blind spot monitoring systems.

Side question: had your brother found out how to hardware his V1 yet?

I didn't put his v1 in my car, I only put mine in his. Mine is much older than his. His v1 is about 2 years old where mines is 9 years old

We haven't found out how to hardware the v1 or the dash cam. I believe I can tap into the cars rearview mirror for the v1 unsure about the dash cam.

If you have any tips that would be great!
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I didn't put his v1 in my car, I only put mine in his. Mine is much older than his. His v1 is about 2 years old where mines is 9 years old

We haven't found out how to hardware the v1 or the dash cam. I believe I can tap into the cars rearview mirror for the v1 unsure about the dash cam.

If you have any tips that would be great!
Nevermind, I was thinking the junk K-band filter upgrade they had not laser. They do have info on why you may be getting laser false alarms though.
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So my brother picked up a 540xi. He doesn't have any of the blind stuff warning systems. We installed the V1 and the laser detection is going off like crazy. I even tried with my own V1 and it does the same. We prefer not to turn off the laser detector option on the V1. For now he can simply press the button and mute the sound.

Anyone have a similar issue? If so what did you do excluding turning off the laser detection system.

Thanks!
KAFAS has LIDAR now.
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KAFAS has LIDAR now.
He doesn't have any assistance packages, the only thing I can think of is the prem. package which has the auto high beams. Would this be the issue?

He has the following packages:

M Sport
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Gesture Control
The Gesture Control Infrared Camera is a likely culprit.
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The Gesture Control Infrared Camera is a likely culprit.

yup!

Here's the response from V1.


"Did he get the gesture control feature option? If so, the V1 will report rearward laser alerts since the gesture sensor is located in the overhead console. The only solution is to block the V1's rear laser sensor with black (non-transparent) tape. The rear laser sensor is the red circle between the bogey count and the band ID lights."

I think this is a little ridiculous, hopefully I can download the V1 app from the app store and hack into the radar.
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The Gesture Control Infrared Camera is a likely culprit.

yup!

Here's the response from V1.


"Did he get the gesture control feature option? If so, the V1 will report rearward laser alerts since the gesture sensor is located in the overhead console. The only solution is to block the V1's rear laser sensor with black (non-transparent) tape. The rear laser sensor is the red circle between the bogey count and the band ID lights."

I think this is a little ridiculous, hopefully I can download the V1 app from the app store and hack into the radar.
Surely the rear facing sensor is needed to sense the laser cameras. Why not block the gesture control - or turn it off.
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I think this is a little ridiculous, hopefully I can download the V1 app from the app store and hack into the radar.
There's just one tiny issue using that approach and why their response is to block the sensor...

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Surely the rear facing sensor is needed to sense the laser cameras. Why not block the gesture control - or turn it off.
The V1 is sensing a laser camera. Unfortunately it's the one inside the car which works on the same spectrum as speed detection devices.
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I think this is a little ridiculous, hopefully I can download the V1 app from the app store and hack into the radar.
There's just one tiny issue using that approach and why their response is to block the sensor...

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Surely the rear facing sensor is needed to sense the laser cameras. Why not block the gesture control - or turn it off.
The V1 is sensing a laser camera. Unfortunately it's the one inside the car which works on the same spectrum as speed detection devices.
Not sure if we've crossed wires there.

The problem seemed to be that the gesture control was interfering with the laser sensor. The advice was to block the laser sensor on the device. What about the other option of blocking the gesture control (or turning off?)
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I turned off the gesture control and it still went off.
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There are 3 additional LIDAR arrays (with extremely short range for touch screen proximity sensing).They normally wouldn't be an issue but you're holding it right in front of them.

Place the unit on the dash against the windshield instead. If it still goes off, cover the sensor with black tape and try again.
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There are 3 additional LIDAR arrays (with extremely short range for touch screen proximity sensing).They normally wouldn't be an issue but you're holding it right in front of them.

Place the unit on the dash against the windshield instead. If it still goes off, cover the sensor with black tape and try again.
Even on the windshield it goes off, oh well I guess it's tape time.
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Supposedly the car has a scanning function to detect the speed limit be reading the posted street signs. Wonder if that's what's setting it off because I don't think you can turn that off. Were you able to get it to work? I guess I'm not getting a V1...
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Supposedly the car has a scanning function to detect the speed limit be reading the posted street signs. Wonder if that's what's setting it off because I don't think you can turn that off. Were you able to get it to work? I guess I'm not getting a V1...
we covered the gesture control, seems good now.
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we covered the gesture control, seems good now.
I just bought my wife a 2017 X6M (no gesture control yet in this model) and the car is doing the same thing with the Laser Sensor.

Just ordered my X5M (will be in early Feb) and scared I'm going to have the same exact issue...ugh! I've been a long time V1 user (have them in 4 cars) this sucks!
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Same thing was happening to me as well, no gesture control. In the end I just ended up turning off laser via programming and everything works fine. In my area Ka band is 9/10 times what the police use so as long as that is on, I have pretty strong confidence with the unit.
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Thanks for this thread it is helpful, I have found this all out on my own in my car. I was disappointed also. I did not turn off the laser detector yet but plan on that since there is very little laser being used here.

The other issue is the SAVVY module cannot be used with the newer BMW's due to an up date in the car alarms. Any device connected to the diagnostic port will tire the alarm. So no SAVVY with its wonderful auto mute function. Dam it.

And now I have to find a switched plus 12 to connect to.

Anyone dissect their overhead console yet? Any photos???


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Same issue. Will try tape on the V1
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      05-12-2018, 04:42 PM   #22
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we used one of those cloth/velcro to cover the sensors on top. when we want to use the hand gesture we just take off the cloth part of the velcro set.
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