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      10-09-2019, 07:33 PM   #1
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What the heck, Canada? Clean teeth, become sex offender!

A dental hygienist in Canada has been stripped of his license and labeled a "sexual abuser" by an Ontario regulatory body because he cleaned the teeth of someone he was sleeping with - which would be his wife.

Yup - that's right, folks - in another wonderful story of "government run amok" - apparently you can be labeled a sex offender if you clean the teeth of your wife and the subsequently have sex with her in your own home.

I have no words.

Enjoy the article. And folks wonder why I despise government.

https://reason.com/2019/10/09/dental...ting-his-wife/
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"government run amok" ... "And folks wonder why I despise government"
The College of Dental Hygienists of Ontario (CDHO) has barred Alex Tanase...
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This has been the rule for a while. Dentists or Dental Hygienists are not to provide any service to anyone that they had relations with.

My gf is a hygienist and she made it very clear to me that she will not be cleaning my teeth. They made them sign all kinds of documents regarding this while she was getting registered.
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This has been the rule for a while. Dentists or Dental Hygienists are not to provide any service to anyone that they had relations with.
The duration of a ridiculous law on the books doesn't make is better. Ridiculous is ridiculous.
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The College of Dental Hygienists of Ontario (CDHO) has barred Alex Tanase...
Reading comprehension. It's a gift that not everyone has.



College of Dental Hygienists of Ontario

"The provincial regulatory body for over 12,500 registered dental hygienists in Ontario."

Provincial

"Government of the provinces which are responsible for public schooling, health and social services, highways, the administration of justice, and local government."


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This has been the rule for a while. Dentists or Dental Hygienists are not to provide any service to anyone that they had relations with.

My gf is a hygienist and she made it very clear to me that she will not be cleaning my teeth. They made them sign all kinds of documents regarding this while she was getting registered.
Irrespective of whether it is the law (there is no dispute of that), it is absolutely ridiculous. Anyone who can't see that this is a perfect example of 'government overreach' can't see the forest for the trees. How is it every okay to be forced to register as a sex offender for cleaning your wife's teeth?????

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The duration of a ridiculous law on the books doesn't make is better. Ridiculous is ridiculous.
^This. Jim Crow laws in the southeastern USA were legal for many years - that hardly makes them right. They were total shit. Same as this baloney.
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The duration of a ridiculous law on the books doesn't make is better. Ridiculous is ridiculous.
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Irrespective of whether it is the law (there is no dispute of that), it is absolutely ridiculous. Anyone who can't see that this is a perfect example of 'government overreach' can't see the forest for the trees. How is it every okay to be forced to register as a sex offender for cleaning your wife's teeth?????



^This. Jim Crow laws in the southeastern USA were legal for many years - that hardly makes them right. They were total shit. Same as this baloney.
Completely agree.

The law is ridiculous.
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This hygienist sounds like a moron. He knew the regulation was there, then heard from a colleague that the regulation had been amended, rather than check with a lawyer.], he took it upon himself to perform a procedure that jeopardized his license. Stupid move on his part.

Not sure why the regulation exists, but it's up to him to follow it.
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This hygienist sounds like a moron. He knew the regulation was there, then heard from a colleague that the regulation had been amended, rather than check with a lawyer.], he took it upon himself to perform a procedure that jeopardized his license. Stupid move on his part.

Not sure why the regulation exists, but it's up to him to follow it.

Again - I feel many are missing the point here. I agree 100% - he is a moron and should have known better and should have done his research.

That said - the point here - is why the hell this law is even in place? In addition to that - why the governing body felt they needed to label him a sex offender? How does that help anyone?

WTF.
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Again - I feel many are missing the point here. I agree 100% - he is a moron and should have known better and should have done his research.

That said - the point here - is why the hell this law is even in place? In addition to that - why the governing body felt they needed to label him a sex offender? How does that help anyone?

WTF.
The larger problem is this: Certain laws are bad enough but its the regulations promulgated to apply the law is where everything runs amok. And who makes these regulations...a bunch of unelected bureaucrats with the power to destroy ones life. Much like they have destroyed his.
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"The provincial regulatory body for over 12,500 registered dental hygienists in Ontario."
I'll meet you half way. "The College’s governing Council includes dental hygienists from around the province who have been elected by their peers, and public members that the provincial government has appointed."

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Reading comprehension. It's a gift that not everyone has.

I double checked, it wasn't in the article linked. Do you always wake up on the wrong side of the bed, or just yesterday?
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Reading comprehension. It's a gift that not everyone has.



College of Dental Hygienists of Ontario

"The provincial regulatory body for over 12,500 registered dental hygienists in Ontario."

Provincial

"Government of the provinces which are responsible for public schooling, health and social services, highways, the administration of justice, and local government."



You are both correct in certain parts and wrong in others IMO.

Tracer is correct in that it is the Ontario college, not the government per se. The College is a "self regulatory body", meaning that it is responsible to regulate its own members, with the view to obtain that which is best in the public's interest / to protect the public. The College is not the government, nor is it made up of politicians - it is made up of professionals from that particular profession. So in this sense, it is not the government who made this stupid rule up.

Run Silent is right in that the authority to self regulate themselves was handed down by the provincial government so that they didn't need to maintain expertise in said area. And if the College makes a stupid rule like that and the government doesn't say "hold on a minute, that's stupid", well then, the government has some culpability here too.

All parties, including the hygienist, are stupid here.
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I think we are arguing semantics here - and by doing so - avoiding the main issue.

No one has yet explain to me how the fuck it is okay to destroy a man's life and label him a sex offender for cleaning his wife's teeth.

Seriously - how can a single person defend this?
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I think we are arguing semantics here - and by doing so - avoiding the main issue.

No one has yet explain to me how the fuck it is okay to destroy a man's life and label him a sex offender for cleaning his wife's teeth.

Seriously - how can a single person defend this?
This. Clearly not in the same group as child molesters and people who actually commit sexual crimes.
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I think we are arguing semantics here - and by doing so - avoiding the main issue.

No one has yet explain to me how the fuck it is okay to destroy a man's life and label him a sex offender for cleaning his wife's teeth.

Seriously - how can a single person defend this?
It is a ridiculous rule where the letter of the law was followed, but not the spirit of the law. It is asinine to group him with sex offenders, BUT, the way the rule was written allows for no exceptions, and he knew that. What he didn't bother to do was verify the rule had changed before violating it.

I could see the loss of license therefore, but cannot understand the sex offender portion.
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I think we are arguing semantics here - and by doing so - avoiding the main issue.

No one has yet explain to me how the fuck it is okay to destroy a man's life and label him a sex offender for cleaning his wife's teeth.

Seriously - how can a single person defend this?
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This. Clearly not in the same group as child molesters and people who actually commit sexual crimes.
The defense of this provides a microcosm of the larger problem we have in society.

Common sense has left the building.
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Considering my occupation, for every idea or notion, I am forced to go the other direction in an assurance of an overall big picture.

If I had problems in closing the deal when it comes to matters of the bedroom, I might be persuaded to have my teeth cleaned (or partake of any other service) by someone labeled as a sexual abuser. Who knows, you may go in for a cleaning and leave with an additional polishing.

Just trying to lighten the mood in here. I do agree, the entire thing, especially the law is completely absurd.
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How much did his now EX-wife take in the divorce proceedings?

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