03-27-2019, 08:44 PM | #1 |
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M550i or M340i?
I've been on the fence lately as to which of these cars I like better. I like them both for different reasons and I can't decide which I would be happier with for my next car. The current M550i seems to have more luxury and plushness with its build quality and materials used around the cabin. It has less textured plastic around the center console and more soft touch and stitched material throughout. The current tech is very good but may not be the absolute greatest or latest. (e.g.- "only idrive 6.0 and not the latest digital cluster in the g20 and new x5). However, whatever it may slightly lack here makes up with the sweet v8 which with Dinan you get around 600hp. The m550i is more subtle and bland looking at stock, but can be made to look m5ish with mods and look awesome.
The m340i is going to be the most modern with the latest tech including digital cockpit, drive 7, remote start, etc. The car is sportier looking and is still very fast with its I6, but not like the m550i. The interior is a little less luxurious, and less plush with more hard plastics used throughout. Particularly what bugs me is the hard plastic used around the lower sides/sides of the center console that your knee and thighs touch. Its hard cheap plastic and not soft touch material. This annoys me to no end. With full merino interior, that fixes alot of the cabin's plushness, but still doesn't fix the hard plastic around the lower center console. Why didn't they use a nicer squishier soft touch. what do you think?
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540 for me actually I don't see myself needing 550 kind of power, if 340 interior quality is better I might considered it, size wise g20 3 series is almost as big as E39 5 series so probably big enough me, just wish they would have better interior in 3 series.
Ps and of course i wouldn't complain if they can somehow upgrade my 540 engine to same hp as 340... |
03-27-2019, 11:21 PM | #3 |
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Just ordered my 540, M550 is a beast I would love to drive. But for daily driving. I gotta have something more tamed lol.
I prefer the new 3 series way more than the current Gen, between 540/340 I went 540. |
03-28-2019, 01:37 AM | #4 |
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Don’t look at iDrive 6 as being outdated compared to idrive 7. It is older, but it is also a much better design. Aside from the countless bugs drivers are experiencing with iDrive 7 (see the x5 forum), it’s just a poor design and unintuitive wheras idrive 6 is excellent. The digital instrument cluster serves little purpose other than for BMW’s marketing team to say they have a fully digital instrument cluster to compete with Audi’s virtual cockpit. The BMW digital cluster in the 3 series is ugly, hard to read and doesn’t present the driver with the right information. The cluster in the G30 5 is better
Aside from the electronics, how the car drives is another big difference. The 3 will be much more tossable than the 5 and feel more sporty. The 5 has a more planted stable feeling, but lacks in steering feel and driver engagement. Do you prefer sport or luxury? Personally I’d go for the refinement of the 5 over the sportiness of the 3 for a daily driver. And definitely 540 not 550. The 540 has more than enough power for a sporty luxury car and weighs much less than the 550 so it feels better and gets much better fuel mileage. The 550 strikes me as pointless as putting a larger engine in an car that’s not engaging to drive doesn’t make it anymore engaging. 540 is the perfect balance |
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The raw power of the V8 even in comfort mode is amazing and acceleration is silky smooth. In sport+ the suspension becomes tight and responsive. The car feels much lighter than it is. On top of that consumer and professional reviews of the M550i are higher than the 540. Honestly, I'd take the 340 over the 540. But I think the M550i tops them both. |
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For me, the decision was between an M3 or the M550i. With a kid, I wanted a bit more room in the back seat, so that meant 5-series. When she's off to college, I'll probably be looking in the M2/M4 arena.
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03-28-2019, 08:14 AM | #8 |
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don't think anyone can deny the acceleration capability and power on 550, but if I truly want dynamic (outside power) in that range I would go for M5 Comp (which of course cost more, and also I assume rides a bit rougher)
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03-28-2019, 11:24 AM | #9 |
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One thing about the 5 series, including the M550i that I've owned for about 15 months, is that there is a lot of plastic in the car (not as much as the 3 series for sure). And it snaps crackles and pops all the time: driving over bumps, and especially when there are temperature changes (like blasting the AC on a hot day, or blasting the heat on a cold day). It's the only thing I've been disappointed in about the 5 series. BMW has gotten a bit cheap there.
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I couldn't see myself getting a 3 series after having the 550 but I bet my right foot wouldn't get me in as much trouble in the 3. It takes control sometimes
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03-28-2019, 12:08 PM | #13 | |
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The way the 5 series is ultimately going to be driven (commuting, long road trips etc) does not really warrant the extra power. It’s too big of a car to take to the canyons and nobody in the right mind would track it because it’s too big and frankly isn’t fun to drive. The 550 is a great car and is more capable than a 540, but it’s not more fun. I don’t consider quicker acceleration all that much more exciting. If it had better steering feel then I’d be more inclined to get a 550 over a 540, but both of them are fairly bland driving vehicles. Personally for my daily driver I went with a G30 530i M-Sport with most of the options checked. I test drive the 540 and 550 several times but I commute in heavy traffic and the extra power would not be beneficial. Moving from the 530 to the 540 is probably a bigger step up in refinement than going from 540 to 550 so in retrospect, maybe I should have done the 540 for the added smoothness even though I didn’t need the extra power. If I want to have fun though, a 550 really doesn’t cut it. My e36 M3 is a much better fun car, as is the M2 comp. if I wanted a 5 series and it had to be fun, the M5 is a significant leap over the 550 in driver engagement. While you can get an m550 to m5 power levels, the suspension and steering in the m5 are on a completely different level and actually makes the car feel like an engaging vehicle. Aside from all of that which is subjective, the 550 suffers BMWs notorious issues with the V8. Its a car I’d only feel comfortable leasing whereas the 540 is a car I’d feel comfortable owning. |
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I think 550 is a bit BMW's take on what Alpina B5 would have done without go in M5 territory (or just MB E53), which is awesome, but just a different kind of car than 340.
For 340 I'm not sure if you can spec it as nicely as 5 series, if you could I can see myself picking 340 over 540 (i.e. 340 is E39 5 series big, which is big enough, and smaller car is general more toss able) |
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03-28-2019, 09:32 PM | #18 |
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I agree with the full Merino interior for the 3 series bridging the Gap, but according to pictures at the auto shows, the full Merino still doesn't cover the sides of the lower center console by your knee, thigh, and up around the arm rest area which is still hard cheap ass plastic. It's not even squishy soft touch which would have made all the difference. Why wouldnt the full merino cover that while area like the merino does in the 5? I thought "full" merino is suppose to be full. They covered 80% of areas with leather and then stopped, why? Is it so that it doesn't have an opportunity to match the merino coverage of 5 series to purposely be a level below?
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I've had a car in the 3-series, C-class, A4 range with various performance levels for most of my driving years, and I finally stepped it up to the M550i last month. I grew tired of the lesser build quality, rattles, wind noise, etc in the lower class cars, and the M550i has truly satisfied.
No, it is not as tossable as the smaller cars were and not as twitchy as my C450, but once you engage that engine it propels you into danger territory and just wants to keep going. All the while, its quiet, comfortable, and luxurious. Sometimes its doesn't feel fast until you look at the speedometer. This is the first car I have actually wanted to drive in comfort mode. If you can afford the M550i over the 340, go for it. You'll be glad you did. |
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The creaking with the change in temp is a known issue attributed to the plastic center HVAC vent behind the nav screen. This shouldn’t be an issue in 2019 models and bmW has a fix for earlier models. |
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You talk about the fit and finish of the car and the electronics but what will be using the car for? Do you need to carry a family regularly and do you need boot (trunk) space to match? If so then the 5 Series is for you. Start with the practicalities of the car and once you have that side of things sorted look at the fit and finish which is always going to be superior in the 5. That's just how BMW rumbles to distinguish their more expensive models.
In the US your speed limits are quite often restricted to 60mph on the motorways so why would anyone need the gas guzzler M550i engined beast? Ok if there is money to be thrown at it fine but the 540i is a great engined car. |
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