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      01-11-2022, 11:12 PM   #1
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530E set charging question

So recently, I found on the MYBMW app that you can set a planned charging time frame. I have set it from
11:00pm to 6:00am. Plugged in the cable but the light automatically went to "blue" which I assume is starting to charge. Am I wrong to say it's charging when I plugged it in or is it not actually drawing a charge until the set start time of 11:00pm?
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Can you see in your app or on the display cluster if it's charging or not?
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The note in the app says "the vehicle can be charged OUTSIDE the time slot… " which reads a little confusing. I'd also swap the times and see what happens.
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I only used it a couple of times when at my in-laws. I found it less intuitive than I expected. It will charge inside the charging window if the car thinks you’ll have a full charge by your scheduled departure time. If it thinks it needs more it will charge earlier or longer than the window prescribes.

If you need it to absolutely charge only within the slot you’ll need to use a smart EVSE.
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I use the app for setting nav, checking if the windows are open, etc. but I have not used it for scheduled charging. My electric provider has a bad period of 3 PM to 8 PM so I don't plug in the car until after 8 PM (I do have a garage). If, on occasion, I forget, I simply plug it in in the morning when I go out for my newspaper on the driveway (I do have a charger so from zero to full charge is just under two hours).
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I have a preset time for my charging between 10pm an 8am. When I get home around 5 and plug it in, it looks like it's charging, but I think it just making sure it can. After a few minutes it goes into a pause until 10 pm.

I get a nonfiction for each step from the app.
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I don't have an EV and am unfamiliar with how they work in terms of charging, but what is the advantage of scheduling charging times vs. just plugging it in when you get in the garage? I assume electricity may be cheaper after hours or something?

Just curious. Building up my knowledge base for when EV's are my last resort.
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I don't have an EV and am unfamiliar with how they work in terms of charging, but what is the advantage of scheduling charging times vs. just plugging it in when you get in the garage? I assume electricity may be cheaper after hours or something?

Just curious. Building up my knowledge base for when EV's are my last resort.
You are correct. Various localities and electric providers have different rate plans and many are time of day based (to encourage use during low use times and discourage use during high use times). BEVs and PHEVs consume a lot of electricity so it is best to charge only during the off peak times.
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You are correct. Various localities and electric providers have different rate plans and many are time of day based (to encourage use during low use times and discourage use during high use times). BEVs and PHEVs consume a lot of electricity so it is best to charge only during the off peak times.
Thanks, I didn't realize they required a significant amount of electricity. Curious, do you know the amount your electric bill changed by when you got the EV vs. before? Is it more like running a hot tub or running the Central Air in the dead of a heat wave? Cheaper than gas I assume? I spend about $250 on gas a month and drive 600 miles a month.
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I have a preset time for my charging between 10pm an 8am. When I get home around 5 and plug it in, it looks like it's charging, but I think it just making sure it can. After a few minutes it goes into a pause until 10 pm.

I get a nonfiction for each step from the app.
So when you initially plug it in, does the light go blue or stay yellow?
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I only used it a couple of times when at my in-laws. I found it less intuitive than I expected. It will charge inside the charging window if the car thinks you'll have a full charge by your scheduled departure time. If it thinks it needs more it will charge earlier or longer than the window prescribes.

If you need it to absolutely charge only within the slot you'll need to use a smart EVSE.
I don't necessarily need it to charge within that time frame, however our local electric company states that's the "super odd-peak" hours with the lowest rates. I don't necessarily even drive it first thing in the morning either but just trying to test it out to see if it can save my lazy butt from having to get up to plug it in at 11:00pm
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Thanks, I didn't realize they required a significant amount of electricity. Curious, do you know the amount your electric bill changed by when you got the EV vs. before? Is it more like running a hot tub or running the Central Air in the dead of a heat wave? Cheaper than gas I assume? I spend about $250 on gas a month and drive 600 miles a month.
I don't because I have a totally electric home with 7 tons of AC, hot water heater, heat pump for cooling and heating the swimming pool, pump for swimming pool, appliances, and, of course, my 530e. My bill has not changed significantly since I got the 530e but it was and is running around $500/month so the amount of electricity I am pumping into my car is not a significant contributor.
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I don't because I have a totally electric home with 7 tons of AC, hot water heater, heat pump for cooling and heating the swimming pool, pump for swimming pool, appliances, and, of course, my 530e. My bill has not changed significantly since I got the 530e but it was and is running around $500/month so the amount of electricity I am pumping into my car is not a significant contributor.
Thanks. Man, $500 a month is cheap for all that, especially where you live and the AC. I've got the AC, Pool Pump, Hot Tub...but home heat, pool heat, dryer, hot water are all natural gas and my bill is still around $500 in the summer with the AC running.

I am going to have to look into retiring out there.
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I have a preset time for my charging between 10pm an 8am. When I get home around 5 and plug it in, it looks like it's charging, but I think it just making sure it can. After a few minutes it goes into a pause until 10 pm.

I get a nonfiction for each step from the app.
So when you initially plug it in, does the light go blue or stay yellow?
It goes blue
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You are correct. Various localities and electric providers have different rate plans and many are time of day based (to encourage use during low use times and discourage use during high use times). BEVs and PHEVs consume a lot of electricity so it is best to charge only during the off peak times.
Thanks, I didn't realize they required a significant amount of electricity. Curious, do you know the amount your electric bill changed by when you got the EV vs. before? Is it more like running a hot tub or running the Central Air in the dead of a heat wave? Cheaper than gas I assume? I spend about $250 on gas a month and drive 600 miles a month.
My cost for charging at night has been about $1.
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I'm sure I read somewhere very recently (I thought on here!) that when plugged in and set to charge to a specific time, it will charge straight away to circa 12% and then go to sleep until specified time for charging.
Apparently getting to the 12% mark does not take long - 15 mins?

I need to find where I read that bit of data, and if it is factually correct.
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Thanks. Man, $500 a month is cheap for all that, especially where you live and the AC. I've got the AC, Pool Pump, Hot Tub...but home heat, pool heat, dryer, hot water are all natural gas and my bill is still around $500 in the summer with the AC running.

I am going to have to look into retiring out there.
The $500 is average over the year. Higher in the summer. When my wife decided she wanted to swim in the winter, and therefore we needed to heat the pool, I asked the gas company to bring the line in front of my house (I don't have gas but there is a gas line 1/2 mile up the road. The gas company said sure, let us research it. They came back to me and said we can bring it in front of your house for only $43,000. Needless to say, I said no and installed the electric heat pump instead (which, by the way, also cools the pool in the summer).
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I use the app for setting nav, checking if the windows are open, etc. but I have not used it for scheduled charging. My electric provider has a bad period of 3 PM to 8 PM so I don't plug in the car until after 8 PM (I do have a garage). If, on occasion, I forget, I simply plug it in in the morning when I go out for my newspaper on the driveway (I do have a charger so from zero to full charge is just under two hours).
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You are correct. Various localities and electric providers have different rate plans and many are time of day based (to encourage use during low use times and discourage use during high use times). BEVs and PHEVs consume a lot of electricity so it is best to charge only during the off peak times.
Thanks, I didn't realize they required a significant amount of electricity. Curious, do you know the amount your electric bill changed by when you got the EV vs. before? Is it more like running a hot tub or running the Central Air in the dead of a heat wave? Cheaper than gas I assume? I spend about $250 on gas a month and drive 600 miles a month.
What "charger" did you go with? I'm trying to decide what to get now for level 2.
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You are correct. Various localities and electric providers have different rate plans and many are time of day based (to encourage use during low use times and discourage use during high use times). BEVs and PHEVs consume a lot of electricity so it is best to charge only during the off peak times.
Thanks, I didn't realize they required a significant amount of electricity. Curious, do you know the amount your electric bill changed by when you got the EV vs. before? Is it more like running a hot tub or running the Central Air in the dead of a heat wave? Cheaper than gas I assume? I spend about $250 on gas a month and drive 600 miles a month.
I do a full charge on my car about once a day which is around 8kWh.

Electricity is .08 cents a kWh where I live, but I know this can vary widely.

8kWh x $.08 x 30 days = $19.20 a month
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What "charger" did you go with? I'm trying to decide what to get now for level 2.
Given my power limitations, I just went with a simple clipper creek charger with NEMA plug so I can change it later without needing an electrician if I want to.
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So recently, I found on the MYBMW app that you can set a planned charging time frame. I have set it from
11:00pm to 6:00am. Plugged in the cable but the light automatically went to "blue" which I assume is starting to charge. Am I wrong to say it's charging when I plugged it in or is it not actually drawing a charge until the set start time of 11:00pm?
Blue means they negotiated and shook hands. Doesn't mean you're drawing full power. I'll triple check with a watt meter but I can tell you it goes blue and then the watts ramp up from 50 to 1800 L1 or 3,800 L2.
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