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      01-10-2017, 08:04 PM   #23
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What color grey is that??
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      01-10-2017, 08:28 PM   #24
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It's absurd how big these cars are becoming...
It's absurd how big these GRILLS are getting! Wow!
+1. Those grills are no longer subtle integrated styling ques. They have become massive and out of scale. Reminds me of the recent days when you could order oversized Cadillac emblems.
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It's absurd how big these cars are becoming...
That's my reaction as well look how big this car is may be it is just the pic angle ... we will have to wait and see
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it is so huge looks like it needs a nose job. I think it would have looked better a little toned down.
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      01-10-2017, 08:50 PM   #26
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The wheels don't let it look very sporty. Nor does that nasty grey color.
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What color grey is that??
Bluestone metallic.
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      01-10-2017, 09:01 PM   #28
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And yes, I wish the G30 was E39 proportions too - but then I'd need to buy a 3'er lol!
E39 is still bigger than current 3 Series

Length
G30 4943mm
E39 4775mm
F30 4636mm

So E39 is 168mm shorter (6.6 inches) than G30
3 Series is another 139mm shorter than E39 (5.47 inches)
0.66 of an inch not 6.60 inch ;0)
Nope, check your math again, cause 168mm is 6.6 inches.
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      01-10-2017, 09:19 PM   #29
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Bluestone metallic.
Me likey. Very similar to space gray I guess.
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It's absurd how big these cars are becoming...
Compared to the F10
its only 8mm wider (0.315 inches)
and 44mm longer (1.73)
And thats mostly due to the bumper design
Gotta compare grill size too
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Don't like the wheels. They look like luxury package wheels, not M Sport.
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I haven't been watching all the models but it sure seems like it's been awhile since I've seen Dunlops on a BMW. They were the OE tire for awhile back in the E36 days.
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Thanks for the vid. It's almost certainly a US-spec car (note the amber side markers and the lack of a rear fog light switch) and so it highlights a couple of interesting things . . .

It appears that BMW will include the ///M front fender badge that it's had on Euro-spec M Sport cars but had deleted from US-spec cars. Also, the car has full rear climate control which was not included in the spec sheet. Both positive things imo.
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I saw the new 7er yesterday and it doesn't look as bulky in person. I doubt the 5 series will look huge either.

Really hoping for more steering feel in the new generation. Also, hope that the new 6 series will break more ground in weight loss and driving dynamics.
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Thanks for the vid. It's almost certainly a US-spec car (note the amber side markers and the lack of a rear fog light switch) and so it highlights a couple of interesting things . . .

It appears that BMW will include the ///M front fender badge that it's had on Euro-spec M Sport cars but had deleted from US-spec cars. Also, the car has full rear climate control which was not included in the spec sheet. Both positive things imo.
It is a North American spec car, but these early show cars are often not exactly to the spec customers will get.
The F30 US show cars also had things like fog lights on M Sport bumpers among other things that the US customer never got in the beginning. (spec was later changed I believe)
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It is a North American spec car, but these early show cars are often not exactly to the spec customers will get.
The F30 US show cars also had things like fog lights on M Sport bumpers among other things that the US customer never got in the beginning. (spec was later changed I believe)
Also, a small detail but the M-Sport 540i BMW brought to the NAIAS doesn't have the shadowline (gloss black) window trim typical of U.S. specification M-Sport cars.

FWIW, I think this evolutionary design is exactly what prospective 5-Series customers were hoping for and want to own. Everything about it says classic, traditional BMW design.
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What color grey is that??
Bluestone metallic.
How different is Bluestone Metallic from Glacier Silver? I thought this was the latter!
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How different is Bluestone Metallic from Glacier Silver? I thought this was the latter!
It is darker, grayer and bluer than Glacier silver

The Bright lights at the show make it appear lighter in the pictures than it really is in daylight



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I like what I see a lot...
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      01-11-2017, 08:38 AM   #43
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Me likey. Very similar to space gray I guess.
Yes, same darkness, but with a blue hue to it.
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I don't like the new headlights design. I think they should have kept the rounds ones
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