BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
BMW 5-Series (G30) Forum Wheels | Tires | Suspension | Brakes | Chassis Runflat debate, continued

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      07-17-2019, 06:20 PM   #23
hlothery
Seeking mental floss
482
Rep
806
Posts

Drives: 2022 Mercedes EQS 450+
Join Date: May 2016
Location: San Antonio, Tx

iTrader: (0)

Update: Michelin PS3ZPs now on in stock sizes of 245/35/20 and 275/30/20. Initial impression is much improved ride. Time will tell, but Discount Tire had nothing but good to say about Michelin runflats in general, and nothing to say about the Goodyears (they were very diplomatic, but facial expressions said it all). Interestingly, they did say to be careful about putting taller tires on in the future, because they tried it on an X6 and got nothing but drivetrain error codes. Food for thought. Anyway, I'll post my impressions of the Michelins after I put some miles on them.
Appreciate 0
      07-18-2019, 11:38 AM   #24
claykin
Brigadier General
United_States
1579
Rep
4,546
Posts

Drives: various BMW
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Florida

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by hlothery View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by claykin View Post
My vote is PS3ZP.
Have you used them? How do they ride, handle, etc? I can't find any reviews on TireRack yet.
I just picked up a 540i with 704 suspension that came with 20" Michelin PS3ZP. Thankfully BMW added Michelin as a supplier for the production line.

Nothing conclusive yet, but my first impressions of the tire are all positive. Not harsh, quiet, very good ride.

I need more time to compare to the PZeros however my PZeros are half worn so I'm not sure it's a valid comparison.

I'm just thrilled the car didnt have the Goodyear F1 Asy 3 on it.
__________________
2023 840GC | 2021 740i | 2019 X3
Appreciate 0
      07-18-2019, 07:00 PM   #25
hlothery
Seeking mental floss
482
Rep
806
Posts

Drives: 2022 Mercedes EQS 450+
Join Date: May 2016
Location: San Antonio, Tx

iTrader: (0)

Put about 75 miles on the car today, over roads with which I am very familiar, including several construction areas. Definitely smoother, and more stable with the pavement transitions in the construction areas. Like what I am experiencing so far. Will keep you posted.
Appreciate 0
      07-20-2019, 12:30 PM   #26
Martin30x
Private
43
Rep
71
Posts

Drives: 540i xdrive
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Halifax

iTrader: (0)

I had asymetric too but ive got now p zero. Much better (both runflats).

I had non runflat tyres on g30 540i xdrive (to soft) .

Michelins are excellent too.
Appreciate 0
      07-21-2019, 11:48 AM   #27
Bimmertrashjr
Private First Class
119
Rep
156
Posts

Drives: 2012 535i
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Las Vegas

iTrader: (0)

7 months in and developed bubble in side wall. Only minor road defects. No pot holes hit. Live in Vegas and our roads are pretty well cared for.

Got these prices off tire rack. Anyone found better pricing?
Attached Images
 
Appreciate 0
      07-21-2019, 12:43 PM   #28
claykin
Brigadier General
United_States
1579
Rep
4,546
Posts

Drives: various BMW
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Florida

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bimmertrashjr View Post
7 months in and developed bubble in side wall. Only minor road defects. No pot holes hit. Live in Vegas and our roads are pretty well cared for.

Got these prices off tire rack. Anyone found better pricing?
You have Goodyear F1 currently? If so, no surprise.

Typically Tire Rack is competitive. Call around. Check Discount Tire. The PS3ZP is new to the US. No surprise Michelin is charging a premium at this time.

But I can tell you first hand, it's a very good tire. The ride so far is incredible. My Michelin equipped 2019 with 704 suspension feels less jarring than my Pirelli equipped 2017 with standard suspension. Same 20" wheels on both.

Only 150 miles in on my 2019, but these Michelins feel like a new generation of run flat tire was born. I hope they age well...

And I have a set of Goodyear F1 in my garage to put back on the 2017 for lease return.
__________________
2023 840GC | 2021 740i | 2019 X3
Appreciate 1
      07-21-2019, 01:15 PM   #29
Bimmertrashjr
Private First Class
119
Rep
156
Posts

Drives: 2012 535i
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Las Vegas

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by claykin View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bimmertrashjr View Post
7 months in and developed bubble in side wall. Only minor road defects. No pot holes hit. Live in Vegas and our roads are pretty well cared for.

Got these prices off tire rack. Anyone found better pricing?
You have Goodyear F1 currently? If so, no surprise.

Typically Tire Rack is competitive. Call around. Check Discount Tire. The PS3ZP is new to the US. No surprise Michelin is charging a premium at this time.

But I can tell you first hand, it's a very good tire. The ride so far is incredible. My Michelin equipped 2019 with 704 suspension feels less jarring than my Pirelli equipped 2017 with standard suspension. Same 20" wheels on both.

Only 150 miles in on my 2019, but these Michelins feel like a new generation of run flat tire was born. I hope they age well...

And I have a set of Goodyear F1 in my garage to put back on the 2017 for lease return.
Yes, Goodyear's. Quick search of inter web and found a ongoing list of same problem dating back to 2011 including their 19's. They should be pulled off the market. At the very least, BMW should pull from supplier list. Feels like your driving on stone wheels. Had Bridgestones RFs on my F10. Better ride and not 1 issue. Michelin is my favorite, cant wait to get rid of these bricks.
Appreciate 0
      07-21-2019, 06:53 PM   #30
hlothery
Seeking mental floss
482
Rep
806
Posts

Drives: 2022 Mercedes EQS 450+
Join Date: May 2016
Location: San Antonio, Tx

iTrader: (0)

Discount Tire in SA matched the prices on TireRack. I have about 1000 miles on the PS3ZPs so far. Head and shoulders above the Goodyear F1s, which are POS in my opinion. I popped two sidewalls in 16K miles. The Michelins are smoother, quieter, better grip, less drifting over pavement transitions in construction zones. Can't believe BMW provided the Goodyears on my new car. Have always trusted Michelin, seems to be another good decision. Time will tell.
Appreciate 1
      07-22-2019, 04:34 PM   #31
Dobie Dog
Captain
Dobie Dog's Avatar
United_States
738
Rep
607
Posts

Drives: 2021 F97 X3M Comp
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: D/FW Texas

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bimmertrashjr View Post
Anyone found better pricing?
I paid my BMW dealer $341.18 for the fronts and $375.29 for the rears several months ago.
__________________
Life is short...Drive fast
Appreciate 1
      07-23-2019, 12:33 PM   #32
Bimmertrashjr
Private First Class
119
Rep
156
Posts

Drives: 2012 535i
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Las Vegas

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dobie Dog View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bimmertrashjr View Post
Anyone found better pricing?
I paid my BMW dealer $341.18 for the fronts and $375.29 for the rears several months ago.
What was the total after installation, if you don't mind?
Appreciate 0
      07-28-2019, 08:52 PM   #33
hlothery
Seeking mental floss
482
Rep
806
Posts

Drives: 2022 Mercedes EQS 450+
Join Date: May 2016
Location: San Antonio, Tx

iTrader: (0)

Another update: 1600 miles now on the PS3ZPs, just traveled again from SA to DFW and back, with a lot of driving in between. Love the Michelin PS3ZPs. Smooth and quiet. Very grippy. Have hit several potholes in construction areas in both cities, and along I35 on the way and back with no consequences. Very similar feel and performance to the PS4S that I had on my M4. Head and shoulders above the Goodyears so far. Will continue to evaluate.
Appreciate 2
claykin1579.00
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:49 AM.




5post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST