[timmahh]

Originally Posted by Van_bimmer

Hopefully we’ll also see a new shifter design from the x/3/8 series style!? I’ve always thought that flat/twisted design is SO ugly, it’s also getting old now.

My lease is up next year; curious what they will do. I have a hard time getting “the same car again”, I was thinking maybe an X4 next time around but it has the G30 interior for the most part. Makes it feel “old” since it’s a new model but not the latest cockpit. First world problems!

[BimmerGuyFL78]

Originally Posted by timmahh

My lease is up next year; curious what they will do. I have a hard time getting “the same car again”, I was thinking maybe an X4 next time around but it has the G30 interior for the most part. Makes it feel “old” since it’s a new model but not the latest cockpit. First world problems!

I know. I'm having the same problem. My lease is up December 2020 and I would like another 5-series just updated with the next large grill and slim tail lamps. Yes I've seen it. Stay tuned. 😉

[AP]

You've seen a lci prototype?

[AndreasG]

I have ordered a 530e two weeks ago. Was scheduled for delivery in July. But talked to the salesman today cause I'm missing delivery week.

He said that their quota for 2019 models was over and order got denied at factory.

Instead I'm getting 2020 model with alot more electric range and more changes. He didn't have any clue about what other changes that were coming.

So I'm searching all over for info on the 2020 model.

It was supposed to be ready for delivery in August, that's the latest date I've gotten.

Anyone got some good links for what's new on 2020 model?

I read so many places that the LCI will be in 2020, but also so many saying it will be in 2021.

I don't get why they would put in bigger battery pack and not change anything else.

Salesman told me 65km per charge in 10 degrees and snow.

[SteveinArizona]

Originally Posted by AndreasG

I have ordered a 530e two weeks ago. Was scheduled for delivery in July. But talked to the salesman today cause I'm missing delivery week.

He said that their quota for 2019 models was over and order got denied at factory.

Instead I'm getting 2020 model with alot more electric range and more changes. He didn't have any clue about what other changes that were coming.

So I'm searching all over for info on the 2020 model.

It was supposed to be ready for delivery in August, that's the latest date I've gotten.

Anyone got some good links for what's new on 2020 model?

I read so many places that the LCI will be in 2020, but also so many saying it will be in 2021.

I don't get why they would put in bigger battery pack and not change anything else.

Salesman told me 65km per charge in 10 degrees and snow.

That is my understanding; the next model will have more battery capacity. Personally, I would prefer a more powerful ICE and would live with the current battery capacity. But the next model should be better.

How did you configure your vehicle? I ordered mine (2018 model built in November of 2017) as well. To me...a key order issue was getting either Nappa or Merino leather; I don't like the Dakota.

[AndreasG]

Originally Posted by SteveinArizona

That is my understanding; the next model will have more battery capacity. Personally, I would prefer a more powerful ICE and would live with the current battery capacity. But the next model should be better.

How did you configure your vehicle? I ordered mine (2018 model built in November of 2017) as well. To me...a key order issue was getting either Nappa or Merino leather; I don't like the Dakota.

All right, thanks.

I got the Dakota.. I'm taking it as a lease and there was this insane offer on it.
I have the sports seats. I was able to add some options like LDW, radar, hifi, keyless and some more. Got a pretty well equipped one and that's what's most important to me.
Comfort seats would have ruined me as it would break the insane offer and cost way to much.

[mobilejo]

Originally Posted by AndreasG

I read so many places that the LCI will be in 2020, but also so many saying it will be in 2021.

The MY2020 model gets built starting mid 2019, delivered not long after that, which is what you're getting and why it will arrive in August.

I *think* the LCI will be the MY2021 model. If so, that will start being built mid 2020 and first deliveries will be shortly after that.

Originally Posted by AndreasG

I don't get why they would put in bigger battery pack and not change anything else.

Not unusual for them to make interim upgrades between new model/LCI and also between LCI/new model. They can't save ALL upgrades solely for the LCI - progress can't stop for 3+ years.

[clee1982]

don't know about anything but pretty sure at this point LCI cannot be 2020, would imagine heard/saw something already if its' 2020 by this point

[Douggie]

Originally Posted by clee1982

don't know about anything but pretty sure at this point LCI cannot be 2020, would imagine heard/saw something already if its' 2020 by this point

I agree. The strange thing is that there is not a single leak or spy shot on the 2021. I highly suspect that they are monitoring the acceptance of the huge ass grille on the 7 LCI. I have a feeling that they might do the same for the 5 LCI (I seriously hope not).

[nlaak]

Originally Posted by clee1982

don't know about anything but pretty sure at this point LCI cannot be 2020, would imagine heard/saw something already if its' 2020 by this point

It's been essentially confirmed that the LCI is not 2020, but that there are a lot of changes coming regardless. The LCI is apparently going to only be cosmetic changes, all the functional changes will be 2020.

[nlaak]

Originally Posted by Douggie

I agree. The strange thing is that there is not a single leak or spy shot on the 2021. I highly suspect that they are monitoring the acceptance of the huge ass grille on the 7 LCI. I have a feeling that they might do the same for the 5 LCI (I seriously hope not).

If the LCI is 2021 and is only cosmetic there's not really much need for camo'd testing with it. And if MY 2020 has all of the functional changes they can test those on public streets and no one would be the wiser.

[clee1982]

Originally Posted by nlaak

It's been essentially confirmed that the LCI is not 2020, but that there are a lot of changes coming regardless. The LCI is apparently going to only be cosmetic changes, all the functional changes will be 2020.

well, I guess it depends on if iDrive 7 is part of 2020, if not then LCI is still beyond just cosmetics

[claykin]

Originally Posted by nlaak

It's been essentially confirmed that the LCI is not 2020, but that there are a lot of changes coming regardless. The LCI is apparently going to only be cosmetic changes, all the functional changes will be 2020.

Where did you get this info? Revised engines have been rumored as is a revised digital dash. Other than that the reliable rumor mill has nothing else to say about the 2020 G30. I'd be surprised if iDrive 7 makes it into the 2020 since it would likely require several other system changes to integrate, including dash revisions that would typically be held for LCI.

I'm guessing (let me be clear this is only my guess) there may be little change coming for 2020. It could be a short year with MY2021 (LCI) beginning Spring 2020. We'll know more soon when BMW releases order guides and dealers begin receiving production slots. Surely by end of May.

BTW, if you check out the G20 3 series, X5 and X7 forums you'll find plenty of people frustrated by iDrive 7. Not just bugs, some functionality related issues. It's one of those be careful what you wish for....

[nlaak]

Originally Posted by claykin

Where did you get this info? Revised engines have been rumored as is a revised digital dash. Other than that the reliable rumor mill has nothing else to say about the 2020 G30. I'd be surprised if iDrive 7 makes it into the 2020 since it would likely require several other system changes to integrate, including dash revisions that would typically be held for LCI.

I'm guessing (let me be clear this is only my guess) there may be little change coming for 2020. It could be a short year with MY2021 (LCI) beginning Spring 2020. We'll know more soon when BMW releases order guides and dealers begin receiving production slots. Surely by end of May.

Here. Scroll down to the May 2019 section of the first post and read through that. ynguldyn has been leaking info on BMW releases for years. The key statement is: "In 2020, G30 LCI will be released. At that point all significant new technology will be already installed on the pre-LCI G30 models so the LCI is going to be almost entirely cosmetical."

He's specifically confirmed the new instrument cluster and IDrive 7 AFAIK, but you'd have to troll through the last dozen pages of the thread to get the specifics, IIRC. He's been predicting MY2020 engines changes for the 530i, 530i and 550i since last summer and there's definitely been a lot of places confirming the 550i engine power increase.

I was wondering myself whether IDrive was coming in MY2020 or not and you make a good point about dash changes and such, but there's been other confirmation on the net that the new instrument cluster is coming and that requires dash changes as well (I believe), so it may be they wanted to do it all at once (which would make sense).

Obviously, some or any of this could be wrong and I'd still call them unconfirmed leaks in that BMW hasn't come out and said anything publicly. I've been following anything I can find (which is not much, admittedly) on the coming G30 changes as I'm looking at getting either a MY2020 550i or and M5 this fall.

[nlaak]

Originally Posted by clee1982

well, I guess it depends on if iDrive 7 is part of 2020, if not then LCI is still beyond just cosmetics

The post I linked down below says IDrive is part of 2020, IIRC, though it's 101 pages and finding where he said IDrive 7 for the G30 is coming in 2020 is not easy.

It's my assumption, based on BMW essentially saying they want to up sell services to owners that they are pushing hard to get IDrive into as many cars as possible since I would assume that is the gateway (ie OTA, etc) to new functionality that they can charge for. While a bunch of the forums posts about IDrive 7 have been negative (though some appears to be from people simply prefer IDrive 6) I'm dragging my feet on getting a BMW specifically in the hopes of getting it - as I'm hoping their desire to sell services means they'll be pushing OTAs with bug fixes and such when they push the capability for new services.

[claykin]

Originally Posted by nlaak

Here. Scroll down to the May 2019 section of the first post and read through that. ynguldyn has been leaking info on BMW releases for years. The key statement is: "In 2020, G30 LCI will be released. At that point all significant new technology will be already installed on the pre-LCI G30 models so the LCI is going to be almost entirely cosmetical."

He's specifically confirmed the new instrument cluster and IDrive 7 AFAIK, but you'd have to troll through the last dozen pages of the thread to get the specifics, IIRC. He's been predicting MY2020 engines changes for the 530i, 530i and 550i since last summer and there's definitely been a lot of places confirming the 550i engine power increase.

I was wondering myself whether IDrive was coming in MY2020 or not and you make a good point about dash changes and such, but there's been other confirmation on the net that the new instrument cluster is coming and that requires dash changes as well (I believe), so it may be they wanted to do it all at once (which would make sense).

Obviously, some or any of this could be wrong and I'd still call them unconfirmed leaks in that BMW hasn't come out and said anything publicly. I've been following anything I can find (which is not much, admittedly) on the coming G30 changes as I'm looking at getting either a MY2020 550i or and M5 this fall.

Ah ha. Yeah, I'm familiar with his predictions. I hadn't seen this May update. Not an easy read the way it's written, but he does speculate new technologies will already be on pre LCI G30s......So, that's interesting. However, I'd like to think changes will be implemented beginning July 2019 production (MY2020) but one never knows. Sometimes BMW begins technology changes in November or March. Another possibility is for 2020 only the electric G30 will get the new tech. F30 drivers might remember when BMW installed NBT in the AH 3 series before the fuel car got it.

[nlaak]

Originally Posted by claykin

Ah ha. Yeah, I'm familiar with his predictions. I hadn't seen this May update. Not an easy read the way it's written, but he does speculate new technologies will already be on pre LCI G30s......So, that's interesting. However, I'd like to think changes will be implemented beginning July 2019 production (MY2020) but one never knows. Sometimes BMW begins technology changes in November or March.

IIRC there's more details about the G30 in his individual posts, if you care to dig for them.

I'm not very familiar with how BMW does things, but changing stuff mid model year seems like a lot of effort. You've got to create new order guides, media, etc. Obviously they can do things in various ways, but it seems likely to me that the instrument cluster and IDrive would logically get changed together and I have seen other places on the net claiming that the new instrument cluster is coming.

Hopefully we'll find out what MY2020 looks like in the next couple weeks since it sounds like MY2019 allocations are over (even if production has not yet stopped).

[claykin]

Originally Posted by nlaak

IIRC there's more details about the G30 in his individual posts, if you care to dig for them.

I'm not very familiar with how BMW does things, but changing stuff mid model year seems like a lot of effort. You've got to create new order guides, media, etc. Obviously they can do things in various ways, but it seems likely to me that the instrument cluster and IDrive would logically get changed together and I have seen other places on the net claiming that the new instrument cluster is coming.

Hopefully we'll find out what MY2020 looks like in the next couple weeks since it sounds like MY2019 allocations are over (even if production has not yet stopped).

My local dealers tell me for June production they only have 530 allocations. That possibly says something if 540 and 550 production are taking the month off.

Order guides typically are released during May so we should know something within next 2 weeks.

BMW has changed things mid year. Not often, but they've done it. MY2013 F30 is an example. All markets except NA got NBT Navigation beginning November 2012 production (mid year). NA market got it beginning MY2014. There's a few more examples similar, but I don't recall timelines... But F10 5 series got NBT in July 2012. So, there's no telling what BMW might do.

[Douggie]

Originally Posted by nlaak

Here. Scroll down to the May 2019 section of the first post and read through that. ynguldyn has been leaking info on BMW releases for years. The key statement is: "In 2020, G30 LCI will be released. At that point all significant new technology will be already installed on the pre-LCI G30 models so the LCI is going to be almost entirely cosmetical."

He's specifically confirmed the new instrument cluster and IDrive 7 AFAIK, but you'd have to troll through the last dozen pages of the thread to get the specifics, IIRC. He's been predicting MY2020 engines changes for the 530i, 530i and 550i since last summer and there's definitely been a lot of places confirming the 550i engine power increase.

I was wondering myself whether IDrive was coming in MY2020 or not and you make a good point about dash changes and such, but there's been other confirmation on the net that the new instrument cluster is coming and that requires dash changes as well (I believe), so it may be they wanted to do it all at once (which would make sense).

Obviously, some or any of this could be wrong and I'd still call them unconfirmed leaks in that BMW hasn't come out and said anything publicly. I've been following anything I can find (which is not much, admittedly) on the coming G30 changes as I'm looking at getting either a MY2020 550i or and M5 this fall.

From the same source you have quoted, the G01/G02 will be getting ID 7 and live cockpit as well in MY2020, and it's not LCI. So it is still possible they might put it in the MY2020 G30.

The Idrive system and the instrument cluster are designed to be modular components, so it can be easily fitted across a few model lines without requiring dashboard changes (the part that houses the instrument cluster and the Idrive screen etc).

[nlaak]

Originally Posted by Douggie

From the same source you have quoted, the G01/G02 will be getting ID 7 and live cockpit as well in MY2020, and it's not LCI. So it is still possible they might put it in the MY2020 G30.

The Idrive system and the instrument cluster are designed to be modular components, so it can be easily fitted across a few model lines without requiring dashboard changes (the part that houses the instrument cluster and the Idrive screen etc).

I think the footprint of the new IDrive screen is larger (it is a larger screen, right?). But yes, I'd assume they have pretty much standardized as much as possible to share parts, etc

[nlaak]

Looks like another indirect confirmation of coming IDrive 7 and new instrument cluster: https://f90.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...php?p=24790487

[clee1982]

Originally Posted by nlaak

Looks like another indirect confirmation of coming IDrive 7 and new instrument cluster: https://f90.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...php?p=24790487

yup definitely looks like iDrive 7, wonder if 540 is going to get upgrade engine (though same hp or 380hp like the M340/Z4 M40 US version)