[pelo911]

test drove the 540i M package today
it's a great car.

i live a bad broken roads area
tires low profile 40 front and 35 rear
very firm ride , i can't live with it everyday

there is an option for air suspension?
i need softer suspension

Multi-contour seats
differences vs regular seats?
better leather quality?

thanks

[remmib]

Originally Posted by pelo911

test drove the 540i M package today
it's a great car.

i live a bad broken roads area
tires low profile 40 front and 35 rear
very firm ride , i can't live with it everyday

there is an option for air suspension?
i need softer suspension

Multi-contour seats
differences vs regular seats?
better leather quality?

thanks

No air suspension. And you can get Nappa leather with the multi contour seats.

[ajfoggy]

Maybe adaptive drive option would help, but it's a lot of money!!

In the UK you can delete the M Sport Suspension as an option and keep the m sport pack, don't know if you can do that?

Originally Posted by pelo911

test drove the 540i M package today
it's a great car.

i live a bad broken roads area
tires low profile 40 front and 35 rear
very firm ride , i can't live with it everyday

there is an option for air suspension?
i need softer suspension

Multi-contour seats
differences vs regular seats?
better leather quality?

thanks

[jedpause]

Originally Posted by pelo911

very firm ride , i can't live with it everyday

there is an option for air suspension?
i need softer suspension

thanks

I think you would benefit from VDC (variable damper control) which dampens the bumps and rough roads... (It might be called something else on the US list... in UK it is a £985 option)

Cheers

[remmib]

Originally Posted by ajfoggy

Maybe adaptive drive option would help, but it's a lot of money!!

In the UK you can delete the M Sport Suspension as an option and keep the m sport pack, don't know if you can do that?

In US Adaptive drive is called Dynamic handling package.

[hinckley]

You may want to consider a non-MSport package car, or (no joke here) a Merc E43.

Multi-contour seats have more aggressive (and adjustable) side bolsters and more adjustability such as the upper backrest and seat length. They're the best seats on the market imo. Also, if you want the nicer Nappa leather, you need to spec the multi-contour seats as well.

[midwest 340xi 6sp]

Agree on the Multi-contour seats, they are truly the best on the market. I've got Nappa now and love it as well.

I'd check out the E Class before pulling the trigger on G 5'er given your criteria and concerns.

[pelo911]

Originally Posted by jedpause

I think you would benefit from VDC (variable damper control) which dampens the bumps and rough roads... (It might be called something else on the US list... in UK it is a £985 option)

Cheers

UK have broken roads also
i guess where i live the road are even worst.
what cars / SUV offer good ride quality in your country?

i have Macan Turbo with Air suspension , very stiff
i have also 2017 Q7 with air suspension , much better but not perfect

i have also Mclaren 675LT , but this is another story.

i like this interior combination:

too bad there is no brown color for the better seats.

the dynamic package offer comfort mode and soften the ride?
35 rear tires are very bad for saloon car like 5 series
and i really don't like the None M package design.

big dilemma

[nickyhaan]

Originally Posted by pelo911

UK have broken roads also
i guess where i live the road are even worst.
what cars / SUV offer good ride quality in your country?

i have Macan Turbo with Air suspension , very stiff
i have also 2017 Q7 with air suspension , much better but not perfect

i have also Mclaren 675LT , but this is another story.

i like this interior combination:

too bad there is no brown color for the better seats.

the dynamic package offer comfort mode and soften the ride?
35 rear tires are very bad for saloon car like 5 series
and i really don't like the None M package design.

big dilemma

there is mocca brown for the comfort seats and there will be individual brown leather seats (amora and caramel if i remember correctly)

[hinckley]

pelo, so much of this is personal preference. I drive a Porsche 911 (with 30 series tires) around the ancient, pot-holed streets of Boston. It's fine for me, but many of my passengers hate it. There's no right or wrong.

What is it that you dislike about the non-MSport 5, the chrome window surrounds or its higher stance? Remember that the latter allows for more wheel travel and a softer ride. It's very difficult to get both a lower suspension and a more compliant suspension.

Quick side story . . . I was driving as a passenger on the horrible streets of Manhattan a month or so ago. I was in a friend's non-MSport F10 550 and was blown away by how comfortable the ride was. Even someone like me who prefers firm rides had to admit it was very nice. It may be worth a trying one.

[remmib]

Originally Posted by hinckley

You may want to consider a non-MSport package car, or (no joke here) a Merc E43.

Multi-contour seats have more aggressive (and adjustable) side bolsters and more adjustability such as the upper backrest and seat length. They're the best seats on the market imo. Also, if you want the nicer Nappa leather, you need to spec the multi-contour seats as well.

The sport seats for the G30 also gets adjustable side bolsters, so I'd check 'em out too.

[pelo911]

Originally Posted by hinckley

pelo, so much of this is personal preference. I drive a Porsche 911 (with 30 series tires) around the ancient, pot-holed streets of Boston. It's fine for me, but many of my passengers hate it. There's no right or wrong.

What is it that you dislike about the non-MSport 5, the chrome window surrounds or its higher stance? Remember that the latter allows for more wheel travel and a softer ride. It's very difficult to get both a lower suspension and a more compliant suspension.

Quick side story . . . I was driving as a passenger on the horrible streets of Manhattan a month or so ago. I was in a friend's non-MSport F10 550 and was blown away by how comfortable the ride was. Even someone like me who prefers firm rides had to admit it was very nice. It may be worth a trying one.

i like the design of M package
and the steering wheel
the Non M look not that great

the dynamic package will not help to soften the ride?

[SDRX]

Originally Posted by pelo911

test drove the 540i M package today
it's a great car.

i live a bad broken roads area
tires low profile 40 front and 35 rear
very firm ride , i can't live with it everyday

there is an option for air suspension?
i need softer suspension

Multi-contour seats
differences vs regular seats?
better leather quality?

thanks

The Nappa leather option certainly looks and feels better. It's smoother and soft

Dakota leather has certainly better endurance and very easy to clean.

Comfort seats (UK name) are very good and have been vastly improved from the F10. The G30 comfort seats are virtually the same as the G10.

The suspension characteristics and ride handling is a matter of taste. For a soft, gentle ride opt for deletion of M sport suspension and get the VDC option fitted.

I would certainly test drive a model with that configuration. It's a choice of whether you want sit on a lump of jelly or an agile fine tuned machine :-)

[pelo911]

Originally Posted by SDRX

The Nappa leather option certainly looks and feels better. It's smoother and soft

Dakota leather has certainly better endurance and very easy to clean.

Comfort seats (UK name) are very good and have been vastly improved from the F10. The G30 comfort seats are virtually the same as the G10.

The suspension characteristics and ride handling is a matter of taste. For a soft, gentle ride opt for deletion of M sport suspension and get the VDC option fitted.

I would certainly test drive a model with that configuration. It's a choice of whether you want sit on a lump of jelly or an agile fine tuned machine :-)

i don't like the design of the None M packages car

i just come back from E43 test drive
very disappointing car
didn't like it at all
my Macan Turbo much softer
that's wired, but it think my 675LT less stiff then E43

liked the 540i M package much much more
better seats
better handling
you not really feel that the 540i is a slower car
i always liked RWD cars then AWD

i'm not sure what to do now
i use to have 2013 335i and because it was really stiff i couldn't enjoy it
i had it for 3 years.

i'm trying to find combination of performance
and comfort for everyday (at very bad roads)
i really need power, at least 5 sec 0-60

what else i should try?
what you guys in UK driving on rough roads?
i know Lexus are good on that , but now enough power.

[babaikram]

Get your 540i M Sport with Variable Damper Control (Dynamic Handling Package as called in USA). Then the dilemma is sorted

[Laki021]

What do you guys think, which wheels are a better choice for this color combo, 19 or 20?
The choice of rims for M Package is terrible at the moment (only three styles), I'm really impressed by any, but have to make a decision.
On one hand the car could use 20" rims, on the other a tires on those rims looks a bit strange (to thin, slim). 19 should also be a bit more comfortable, but then again it's just a bit to small

[ted99]

Originally Posted by pelo911

i don't like the design of the None M packages car

i just come back from E43 test drive
very disappointing car
didn't like it at all
my Macan Turbo much softer
that's wired, but it think my 675LT less stiff then E43

liked the 540i M package much much more
better seats
better handling
you not really feel that the 540i is a slower car
i always liked RWD cars then AWD

i'm not sure what to do now
i use to have 2013 335i and because it was really stiff i couldn't enjoy it
i had it for 3 years.

i'm trying to find combination of performance
and comfort for everyday (at very bad roads)
i really need power, at least 5 sec 0-60

what else i should try?
what you guys in UK driving on rough roads?
i know Lexus are good on that , but now enough power.

I'd suggest that you consider changing the wheels and tires on the MSport package after purchase. Go with 18" wheels and taller sidewalls with Michelin PSS4 non run flat tires. I immediately changed the 18" run flats on my leased F10 to same size non run flats and felt an immediate difference. I drive Richmond Ave in Houston (an excellent rough road test track) and the tire change did wonders.

[Mariuss]

Originally Posted by ted99

I'd suggest that you consider changing the wheels and tires on the MSport package after purchase. Go with 18" wheels and taller sidewalls with Michelin PSS4 non run flat tires. I immediately changed the 18" run flats on my leased F10 to same size non run flats and felt an immediate difference. I drive Richmond Ave in Houston (an excellent rough road test track) and the tire change did wonders.

The problem is, Michelin currently doesn't make the required sizes for 18" or 19" tires (245 width front and 275 rear). I checked PSS, PS4 and PS4S on their home page for the Czech market... The only option is to have different model front to rear

[Art__Vandelay]

Originally Posted by Laki021

What do you guys think, which wheels are a better choice for this color combo, 19 or 20?
The choice of rims for M Package is terrible at the moment (only three styles), I'm really impressed by any, but have to make a decision.
On one hand the car could use 20" rims, on the other a tires on those rims looks a bit strange (to thin, slim). 19 should also be a bit more comfortable, but then again it's just a bit to small

Are there options without the dark inside part? I hate that, makes the wheels look extremely flat. Otherwise the 20s look okay.

[pelo911]

Originally Posted by ted99

I'd suggest that you consider changing the wheels and tires on the MSport package after purchase. Go with 18" wheels and taller sidewalls with Michelin PSS4 non run flat tires. I immediately changed the 18" run flats on my leased F10 to same size non run flats and felt an immediate difference. I drive Richmond Ave in Houston (an excellent rough road test track) and the tire change did wonders.

This is the road i drive all day
from home to work
work to gym
etc.
i live in Yorktown and Richmond ave

worst road ever !!!

[babaikram]

Originally Posted by nickyhaan

there is mocca brown for the comfort seats and there will be individual brown leather seats (amora and caramel if i remember correctly)

Isn't this cognac seats with Aluminium Rhombicle trim

[remmib]

Originally Posted by babaikram

Isn't this cognac seats with Aluminium Rhombicle trim

Yes, but if you want Nappa leather the only brownish option is Mocha.