[paulbazo]

Originally Posted by screamace

There must be some bug with the US configurator. DDC is shown as a no-cost option for 540i xDrive but no where to be found for 540i.

well, Is not available, my dealer tried to add DDC to my build and it was not possible, they called BMW and the response was that is not available.

[ajfoggy]

Originally Posted by remmib

It says both 223 and 704? Any may you can show us?

Order is wrong VIN check only states VCD.

[remmib]

Originally Posted by paulbazo

well, Is not available, my dealer tried to add DDC to my build and it was not possible, they called BMW and the response was that is not available.

DDC is a $1000 option on the 530i, but on the 540i, according to the configurator, you'll need to get the hole DHP package.

[remmib]

Originally Posted by ajfoggy

Order is wrong VIN check only states VCD.

Yeah, something had to be wrong.

[pharding]

The M Sport Suspension and DDC is standard on the M550i. I drove a 6 Series with suspension set up and it was uber spectacular. That is why is went with the M550i.

[remmib]

Originally Posted by pharding

The M Sport Suspension and DDC is standard on the M550i. I drove a 6 Series with suspension set up and it was uber spectacular. That is why is went with the M550i.

Kind of, but it's not listed as option 223 and 704. It's called Adaptive M suspension, option code 2VF.

[HighlandPete]

Originally Posted by remmib

Kind of, but it's not listed as option 223 and 704. It's called Adaptive M suspension, option code 2VF.

It is logical BMW are using Adaptive M suspension on the M550i, sport suspension settings, with DDC running modified damping maps. It's being used on other model ranges, so not unexpected.

[jedpause]

Originally Posted by ajfoggy

So i have just checked my order and adding VDC/DDC in the UK doesn't delete the M Sport suspension.

Very weird...

I tried again with both Firefox and Google Chrome browsers... when I add VDC, the M Sport Suspension unchecks itself (deletes itself)

[ajfoggy]

Originally Posted by jedpause

Very weird...

I tried again with both Firefox and Google Chrome browsers... when I add VDC, the M Sport Suspension unchecks itself (deletes itself)

Hmm, may be I was mistaken on the configurator, but it's right you can't have both and my VIN confirms it.

[nickb3]

Is VDC different on a SE spec compared to an M Sport spec (UK market)? I test drove an SE with VDC last week, and even in Sport mode there seemed to be a lot of body roll - more so than I remember in my passive M Sport F30 (my current X3 isn't a good comparison).

[jedpause]

Originally Posted by nickb3

Is VDC different on a SE spec compared to an M Sport spec (UK market)? I test drove an SE with VDC last week, and even in Sport mode there seemed to be a lot of body roll - more so than I remember in my passive M Sport F30 (my current X3 isn't a good comparison).

I believe it is the same...the active shocks are the same in other words... I am not sure if the 'sport' mode on an SE has a bit softer programming... or if the car had 17" tyres... both of which may have created a amplified feeling of roll compared to an M SPort with VDC... I've not driven an SE, but those are my thoughts

[HighlandPete]

My understanding it is the same, as in the F10/F11 models. Ride height and softer springs required to run the VDC settings. VDC can't prevent roll, may slow weight transfer, but it is not comparable to Adaptive Drive, VDC with active roll control.

The difference will be in the M550, with the different listed option (2VF), Adaptive M suspension. That historically does have sport suspension settings along with VDC.

[AP]

Do we know if 2VF (adaptive Msport suspension) will be offered on any cars otehr thna the M550i or will it remian exclusive to that model?

Given the M550i is not coming to the UK, will the UK miss out on this option?

[nickb3]

Originally Posted by jedpause

I believe it is the same...the active shocks are the same in other words... I am not sure if the 'sport' mode on an SE has a bit softer programming... or if the car had 17" tyres... both of which may have created a amplified feeling of roll compared to an M SPort with VDC... I've not driven an SE, but those are my thoughts

The car had 17" wheels, so that may well have contributed the feeling of roll. The car felt more composed when driving over uneven roads. I was surprised, when compared to the X3, gave that feeling of 'roll'. Would be nice to see the M550i in the UK!

[HighlandPete]

Originally Posted by nickb3

The car had 17" wheels, so that may well have contributed the feeling of roll. The car felt more composed when driving over uneven roads. I was surprised, when compared to the X3, gave that feeling of 'roll'. Would be nice to see the M550i in the UK!

Wheel size and tyre sidewall will make a difference, but we have to be working a chassis pretty hard to get much more noticeable roll from tyres.

I run 17" & 18" on my 535i. There is hardly any difference in body roll. OK I'm running Adaptive Drive, but there must still be the same additional roll as a fixed ARB, when changing the wheel size. The difference can be less than expected, partly because the tyre section is different, 225 vs. 245 on the same rim width. Pressures are similar, so there won't be a massive flex change.

As to the M550i in the UK, can't see it more than a very limited market. Particularly as the M5 will always be the top car. The 550i has never been a volume seller, even the 535i hasn't been. The 550i was dropped from the touring range very early on. We won't see many 540i models in the UK, unless there is a massive swing to petrol. Personally don't see that happening, at least not yet.

[E90Fleet]

Originally Posted by HighlandPete

As to the M550i in the UK, can't see it more than a very limited market. Particularly as the M5 will always be the top car. The 550i has never been a volume seller, even the 535i hasn't been. The 550i was dropped from the touring range very early on. We won't see many 540i models in the UK, unless there is a massive swing to petrol. Personally don't see that happening, at least not yet.

The UK is a strange place

[MMY]

Originally Posted by E90Fleet

The UK is a strange place

... not wanting to come across as anyway political..BUT! ... from reading Highland Pete's posts, and his forum name, I suspect he hails from, or resides in, Scotland, which may not remain part of the UK for too much longer!!!

Anyhow, interested to see his comments that the UK will not turn towards petrol in the foreseeable future... I did consider ordering a new 530E as an alternative to my 530d on order; drove the 330E and wasn't unimpressed. However, I figured I didn't want to be an early adopter and anyway, my driving profile at present would mean 50% of my mileage using petrol only so I decided to pass and stick with diesel (which is a cheaper fuel per litre here at the moment - but sods law, since I locked in my order, politicians start talking about equalising petrol and diesel prices as a first step to weaning us off diesel!!!)

[AP]

as I have mentioned in other posts , my personal belief is that we will see a swing from diesel to petrol over the next few years , but how much , difficult to say.
This is just based upon an ever increasing war on diesels that we are seeing in the press on what seems a more regular basis now.
anyway my question still stands as to whethe adaptive msport suspension will ever come to the UK.

[HighlandPete]

Originally Posted by AP

as I have mentioned in other posts , my personal belief is that we will see a swing from diesel to petrol over the next few years , but how much , difficult to say.
This is just based upon an ever increasing war on diesels that we are seeing in the press on what seems a more regular basis now.
anyway my question still stands as to whethe adaptive msport suspension will ever come to the UK.

I suspect it will be kept for the top models.

On the petrol/diesel issue, I believe smaller petrol models with lower engine outputs will be the first to be taken up by users in sensible volume. Same as manufacturers are already dropping some small diesel models, as cleaning up the emissions is too expensive at the lower price point. In the bigger cars diesel still makes much more sense for many folks, even if they have to pay a bit more to have advanced exhaust after treatment systems.

[MMY]

Originally Posted by HighlandPete

In the bigger cars diesel still makes much more sense for many folks, even if they have to pay a bit more to have advanced exhaust after treatment systems.

Am I right in thinking that the G30 diesels now use Adblue??

[remmib]

I assume adaptive M suspension (2VF) will only be seen on M Performance G30's.
So far we only have the M550i, but I hope to see a M550d too. But if that will be available in the UK in another question.

[HighlandPete]

Originally Posted by MMY

Am I right in thinking that the G30 diesels now use Adblue??

Yes, BMW have stated all G30 diesels will have SCR with AdBlue.