[Royce Martin]

Which model do you think will sell more?

[Sedoy]

Probably G30 due to better engine options (at this time). Freaking E43 "AMG" dynamically is equal to 535i but starts over $72k... Next one down is E300 with poor 2.0t.

[Germanauto]

I think it'll vary month-to-month based on incentives and things of that nature. But the Merc has pretty lame engine options. A fairly loaded E300 will probably come out to the same MSRP as a similarly-equipped 535.

I was driving near one today and thought it was a C-class until I saw the "E300" badge. No matter how you feel about the G30's styling, at least it'll never be confused with a 3er.

[Paul-Bracq-BMW]

I believe the G30 if not for brand loyalty.

Most German magazines have compared them head to head (with also the A6 in the mix) and the G30 won each time hands down...

[DieGrüneHölle]

Feb 2017 sales:

E-class 3,471 units
5-series 2,731 units

[M47]

Originally Posted by Sedoy

Probably G30 due to better engine options (at this time). Freaking E43 "AMG" dynamically is equal to 535i but starts over $72k... Next one down is E300 with poor 2.0t.

I think there are more people buying luxury cars for the brand rather than looking at the engines.

[Red Bread]

Originally Posted by Blipit_

Feb 2017 sales:

E-class 3,471 units
5-series 2,731 units

US? I assume 99% of those 5ers were F, not G series.

I'd speculate on E's too, but honestly can't tell a C, from an E from S from more than ten feet away.

[DieGrüneHölle]

Originally Posted by Red Bread

US? I assume 99% of those 5ers were F, not G series.

I'd speculate on E's too, but honestly can't tell a C, from an E from S from more than ten feet away.

US sales. Yes first month of G30 on the market. Not sure of F to G ratio, but I doubt it is 99%. That is all the data we have for new models.

You can look at past data of previous model. E-class seems to definitely move more volume each and every year. We will see if the G30 changes that trend.

2013 - E- 69,803, 5- 52,704
2014 - E- 66,400, 5- 52,704
2015 - E- 49,736, 5- 44,162
2016 - E- 46,740, 5- 32,408

[lemetier]

Originally Posted by Blipit_

US sales. Yes first month of G30 on the market. Not sure of F to G ratio, but I doubt it is 99%. That is all the data we have for new models.

You can look at past data of previous model. E-class seems to definitely move more volume each and every year. We will see if the G30 changes that trend.

2013 - E- 69,803, 5- 52,704
2014 - E- 66,400, 5- 52,704
2015 - E- 49,736, 5- 44,162
2016 - E- 46,740, 5- 32,408

MB includes CLS, Sedan, Coupe, and Conv in their E Class figures.

[Red Bread]

Originally Posted by Blipit_

US sales. Yes first month of G30 on the market. Not sure of F to G ratio, but I doubt it is 99%. That is all the data we have for new models.

You can look at past data of previous model. E-class seems to definitely move more volume each and every year. We will see if the G30 changes that trend.

2013 - E- 69,803, 5- 52,704
2014 - E- 66,400, 5- 52,704
2015 - E- 49,736, 5- 44,162
2016 - E- 46,740, 5- 32,408

I've just seen one G30 so far. I agree that blended E sales will likely continue to outpace 5er sedans, but the G30 will help, while likely not cutting the gap too much.

[Royce Martin]

Originally Posted by Sedoy

Probably G30 due to better engine options (at this time). Freaking E43 "AMG" dynamically is equal to 535i but starts over $72k... Next one down is E300 with poor 2.0t.

Didn't they drop the 535 & bump it up to a 540?

[Royce Martin]

Originally Posted by Germanauto

I think it'll vary month-to-month based on incentives and things of that nature. But the Merc has pretty lame engine options. A fairly loaded E300 will probably come out to the same MSRP as a similarly-equipped 535.

I was driving near one today and thought it was a C-class until I saw the "E300" badge. No matter how you feel about the G30's styling, at least it'll never be confused with a 3er.

Definitely very confusing, G30 (in my opinion) will sell far more than E-Class to crowds under 100 years old

[Royce Martin]

Originally Posted by Paul-Bracq-BMW

I believe the G30 if not for brand loyalty.

Most German magazines have compared them head to head (with also the A6 in the mix) and the G30 won each time hands down...

+1

[Royce Martin]

Originally Posted by Blipit_

Feb 2017 sales:

E-class 3,471 units
5-series 2,731 units

Wasn't the E-Class released before the G30?

[Royce Martin]

Originally Posted by M47

I think there are more people buying luxury cars for the brand rather than looking at the engines.

The crowd BMW targets are engine buyers.

[Royce Martin]

Originally Posted by Red Bread

US? I assume 99% of those 5ers were F, not G series.

I'd speculate on E's too, but honestly can't tell a C, from an E from S from more than ten feet away.

+1

[Royce Martin]

Originally Posted by lemetier

MB includes CLS, Sedan, Coupe, and Conv in their E Class figures.

What a way to make it look like their sales are up, even with the extra models included against the 5er, its still not far behind in sales. Might as well throw the 6er, coupe, gran coupe and make it fair.

[ThreethirtyDee]

G30 if my experience is anything to go by.

I had a E220d Premium plus on order but it got delayed due to parts shortages. They could not supply the Pano Roof, Dashboard or Drive Assist and could not confirm how long the problem would last. I cancelled and ordered a 530d M/S which wasn't available at the time I had to place the original order. Think I'll be much better off

[Germanauto]

Originally Posted by Blipit_

US sales. Yes first month of G30 on the market. Not sure of F to G ratio, but I doubt it is 99%. That is all the data we have for new models.

You can look at past data of previous model. E-class seems to definitely move more volume each and every year. We will see if the G30 changes that trend.

2013 - E- 69,803, 5- 52,704
2014 - E- 66,400, 5- 52,704
2015 - E- 49,736, 5- 44,162
2016 - E- 46,740, 5- 32,408

The Merc typically does 1,000 more units per month than the BM.

Give it a year and they'll be neck and neck once again. The Merc has the upper hand right now with F10s still on the lots.

[steve090619]

If I were to buy a 4 cylinder engine, I would go with Mercedes. But who is buying a 4 cylinder slug, when a powerful 6 cylinder is available. My vote, 540 hands down.

[DieGrüneHölle]

Originally Posted by steve090619

If I were to buy a 4 cylinder engine, I would go with Mercedes. But who is buying a 4 cylinder slug, when a powerful 6 cylinder is available. My vote, 540 hands down.

My guess is we will see the new M256 inline 6-cylinder make its way into the E-class and across their range of cars.

[steve090619]

Originally Posted by Blipit_

My guess is we will see the new M256 inline 6-cylinder make its way into the E-class and across their range of cars.

Until that happens, why would you get a Mercedes? I can get a honda accord 4 cylinder that runs just as good. These are Premium Cars, should have premium engines. 540 numbers are unbelievable, I can't wait for mine to come in so I can see what it can do.