[dhruvgarg]

Hi All,

New to BMWs in general. I was curious to know if there is any information /leaks available on planned G30 540i changes for the 2020 model due for a release this summer 2019.

Will the engine be upgraded to 380+hp like the M40i or the M340i?

I'm hoping that its just the engine and internal UI updates like idrive 7. I'm kind of scared of the 7 series like LCI and don't wish to see a large kidney grille like the X5 or 7 series. I would love to get a 380 hp 540i xdrive or the 530hp M550i.

If no info is out yet, generally speaking what timeframe do the leaks start to surface?

Thanks!

[note46]

I think the 380hp version of the B58 is reserved for the M### models. Since the 540i is not a M540i I would guess not. But you never know, rumor has it the M550i will get the 530hp version of the car. Maybe bmw will upgrade to M540i since the hp difference will be much larger than currently. (335 vs 456, 380 vs 530)

[Ilyam5]

This article should clear the confusion with b58 engine.

https://www.wardsauto.com/2019-10-be...arged-dohc-i-6

Bmw uses 2. Variants of it now. TU 0. And TU 1. Only 2019 x5 already has the updated. Version and is not changing in July. Everyone else should get this TU1 update in July 2019

New B58 engine TU1 (code number B58B30M1) in x5 also will power the forthcoming X7 three-row SUV, while the earlier version of the B58 TU 0(code number B58B30M0) remains the Bavarian workhorse, seeing high volume in the 2-Series, 4-Series, 5-Series, 6-Series and 7-Series cars, as well as the X3 and X4 utility vehicles.

Both engines have 2 levels of tune - low and high

TU 0 low is 320 in all the above models and high at 355 in x3 m40 only

TU1 low is 335 HP in all vehicles and 382 high in M340 and z4 m40, and X3 M40

[dhruvgarg]

thanks guys! this is interesting info. Sounds like i should look to get the M550i then I was mighty impressed by the silkyness of the 540i , so would love to see a hp bump on it. Maybe the MPPSK installation is good enough.

[530iDriver]

Originally Posted by dhruvgarg

thanks guys! this is interesting info. Sounds like i should look to get the M550i then I was mighty impressed by the silkyness of the 540i , so would love to see a hp bump on it. Maybe the MPPSK installation is good enough.

If owning long term, I would avoid BMW V8s. The inline sixes are always more reliable over the long haul...

[saporitj]

Originally Posted by dhruvgarg

thanks guys! this is interesting info. Sounds like i should look to get the M550i then I was mighty impressed by the silkyness of the 540i , so would love to see a hp bump on it. Maybe the MPPSK installation is good enough.

I could be wrong but I thought I read in another thread that the MPPSK is no longer available for cars produced after mid 2018.
MPPSK 540i https://g30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1560332

[clee1982]

Originally Posted by Ilyam5

This article should clear the confusion with b58 engine.

https://www.wardsauto.com/2019-10-be...arged-dohc-i-6

Bmw uses 2. Variants of it now. TU 0. And TU 1. Only 2019 x5 already has the updated. Version and is not changing in July. Everyone else should get this TU1 update in July 2019

New B58 engine TU1 (code number B58B30M1) in x5 also will power the forthcoming X7 three-row SUV, while the earlier version of the B58 TU 0(code number B58B30M0) remains the Bavarian workhorse, seeing high volume in the 2-Series, 4-Series, 5-Series, 6-Series and 7-Series cars, as well as the X3 and X4 utility vehicles.

Both engines have 2 levels of tune - low and high

TU 0 low is 320 in all the above models and high at 355 in x3 m40 only

TU1 low is 335 HP in all vehicles and 382 high in M340 and z4 m40, and X3 M40

well, how do you get TU1 to high output, i.e. 382hp without non factory stuff...

[12bmw535xi]

Originally Posted by dhruvgarg

thanks guys! this is interesting info. Sounds like i should look to get the M550i then I was mighty impressed by the silkyness of the 540i , so would love to see a hp bump on it. Maybe the MPPSK installation is good enough.

Have you test driven M550? Speaking of smooth ride with ton of refinement and power. You'd love the way it drives!

[dhruvgarg]

Originally Posted by 12bmw535xi

Have you test driven M550? Speaking of smooth ride with ton of refinement and power. You'd love the way it drives!

Yes I did test drive a used M550i with about 10k miles on it. It was really great, unbelievable power. I also drove a 540i X drive, now this one was just insanely quiet inside which I really appreciated! Luckily both cars are in my budget, but I found M550i to be quite a bit noisier with a somewhat motorcycle like low frequency vibrations sent in the cabin. If the 540i can be updated to 380hp, I would probably pass on the M550.

This year 550 is expected to come with 530hp, now that might really change my mind. In general really liked the low frequency bass emitted by the engine note of the M550i , i just need to test drive a brand new one to make up my mind. In my area its very hard to get a M550 to test drive. It certainly was a very refined car, its just that 540 really surprised me by its refinement.

[dhruvgarg]

Originally Posted by saporitj

I could be wrong but I thought I read in another thread that the MPPSK is no longer available for cars produced after mid 2018.
MPPSK 540i https://g30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1560332

Ouch, this is so disappointing

[dhruvgarg]

Originally Posted by 530iDriver

If owning long term, I would avoid BMW V8s. The inline sixes are always more reliable over the long haul...

Agree on that. If i get the V8, I'll get the extended warranty as well.

[12bmw535xi]

Originally Posted by dhruvgarg

Yes I did test drive a used M550i with about 10k miles on it. It was really great, unbelievable power. I also drove a 540i X drive, now this one was just insanely quiet inside which I really appreciated! Luckily both cars are in my budget, but I found M550i to be quite a bit noisier with a somewhat motorcycle like low frequency vibrations sent in the cabin. If the 540i can be updated to 380hp, I would probably pass on the M550.

This year 550 is expected to come with 530hp, now that might really change my mind. In general really liked the low frequency bass emitted by the engine note of the M550i , i just need to test drive a brand new one to make up my mind. In my area its very hard to get a M550 to test drive. It certainly was a very refined car, its just that 540 really surprised me by its refinement.

Not sure about the used vehicle that you test drove, but mine is very quiet and not really sure what noise you are referring to... Either way, it's a matter of personal preference and just go with what you like. Good luck!

[dhruvgarg]

Originally Posted by 12bmw535xi

Not sure about the used vehicle that you test drove, but mine is very quiet and not really sure what noise you are referring to... Either way, it's a matter of personal preference and just go with what you like. Good luck!

Thanks!

[VirtualGuitars]

Originally Posted by 12bmw535xi

Have you test driven M550? Speaking of smooth ride with ton of refinement and power. You'd love the way it drives!

I absolutely love mine! No regrets.

[VirtualGuitars]

Originally Posted by dhruvgarg

Yes I did test drive a used M550i with about 10k miles on it. It was really great, unbelievable power. I also drove a 540i X drive, now this one was just insanely quiet inside which I really appreciated! Luckily both cars are in my budget, but I found M550i to be quite a bit noisier with a somewhat motorcycle like low frequency vibrations sent in the cabin. If the 540i can be updated to 380hp, I would probably pass on the M550.

This year 550 is expected to come with 530hp, now that might really change my mind. In general really liked the low frequency bass emitted by the engine note of the M550i , i just need to test drive a brand new one to make up my mind. In my area its very hard to get a M550 to test drive. It certainly was a very refined car, its just that 540 really surprised me by its refinement.

The noise has a lot to do with what kind of tires are on the vehicle. If you have high-performance tires it's going to be noisier. You will want factory-equipped high-performance tires if you want the top speed limiter to be 155 mph instead of 130 mph. From what I understand, this coding cannot be changed outside of the factory. The top speed limiter is set before it leaves based on the tires that are on it.

As far as the performance on the M550i is concerned, my 2019 is rated at 456 hp and will do 0 to 60 mph in only 3.9 seconds. From what I've read from others on this forum, BMW highly undervalues the actual horse power rating than what it truly is - probably because it's faster than last year's M5. Apparently it reads over 500 hp on the dyno.

There is plenty of power on this beast. If you need any more power than that, then you should get an M5.

[dhruvgarg]

Originally Posted by VirtualGuitars

The noise has a lot to do with what kind of tires are on the vehicle. If you have high-performance tires it's going to be noisier. You will want factory-equipped high-performance tires if you want the top speed limiter to be 155 mph instead of 130 mph. From what I understand, this coding cannot be changed outside of the factory. The top speed limiter is set before it leaves based on the tires that are on it.

As far as the performance on the M550i is concerned, my 2019 is rated at 456 hp and will do 0 to 60 mph in only 3.9 seconds. From what I've read from others on this forum, BMW highly undervalues the actual horse power rating than what it truly is - probably because it's faster than last year's M5. Apparently it reads over 500 hp on the dyno.

There is plenty of power on this beast. If you need any more power than that, then you should get an M5.

Thanks for the pointers on the tires. I'll be sure to check them as well on the next test drive. I want to clear all air of doubt by test driving a new one. I recently switched to Michelin sport 4s non-run flats yesterday on my Mercedes C400, and it literally killed majority of the road noise. I drove M550 last Dec , will take a note of these minor details on my next test drive.

456hp is way more than what I need, but getting a little greedy with the knowledge that it will be upgraded to 530hp this july

[VirtualGuitars]

Originally Posted by dhruvgarg

Thanks for the pointers on the tires. I'll be sure to check them as well on the next test drive. I want to clear all air of doubt by test driving a new one. I recently switched to Michelin sport 4s non-run flats yesterday on my Mercedes C400, and it literally killed majority of the road noise. I drove M550 last Dec , will take a note of these minor details on my next test drive.

456hp is way more than what I need, but getting a little greedy with the knowledge that it will be upgraded to 530hp this july

What I'm trying to tell you as I think the current engine has close to that amount of horsepower already. It's just not advertised that way. When the current M550i came out, it was already faster than the M5 at the time, so for marketing purposes it wouldn't look very good until the current M5 came out - which really isn't all that much faster despite the extra horsepower.

I only mention this because others on this forum have had their cars dyno'd.

[dhruvgarg]

Originally Posted by VirtualGuitars

What I'm trying to tell you as I think the current engine has close to that amount of horsepower already. It's just not advertised that way. When the current M550i came out, it was already faster than the M5 at the time, so for marketing purposes it wouldn't look very good until the current M5 came out - which really isn't all that much faster despite the extra horsepower.

I only mention this because others on this forum have had their cars dyno'd.

This is an interesting insight. I'm not familar with BMWs so wasn't even aware of the underrating of the engines. I'll try it out soon! Thanks

[VirtualGuitars]

Originally Posted by dhruvgarg

This is an interesting insight. I'm not familar with BMWs so wasn't even aware of the underrating of the engines. I'll try it out soon! Thanks

I'm just sharing what I have read on here, but it does make sense from a marketing perspective. If you think about it, it would be difficult to convince someone to buy an M5 if the M550ix is faster with more horsepower on paper. The M5 that's out now came later. At the end of the day, BMW is in the business of selling cars.

[dhruvgarg]

Originally Posted by VirtualGuitars

What I'm trying to tell you as I think the current engine has close to that amount of horsepower already. It's just not advertised that way. When the current M550i came out, it was already faster than the M5 at the time, so for marketing purposes it wouldn't look very good until the current M5 came out - which really isn't all that much faster despite the extra horsepower.

I only mention this because others on this forum have had their cars dyno'd.

One more question - what's your take on the reliability of the M550 V8 motor?

[VirtualGuitars]

Originally Posted by dhruvgarg

One more question - what's your take on the reliability of the M550 V8 motor?

I haven't had my 2019 M550i for very long, but I've had both V6 and V8 engines in my BMWs and I've never had a problem with the drivetrain. With that being said, I typically drive my cars 3 to 5 years.

[dhruvgarg]

Originally Posted by VirtualGuitars

I haven't had my 2019 M550i for very long, but I've had both V6 and V8 engines in my BMWs and I've never had a problem with the drivetrain. With that being said, I typically drive my cars 3 to 5 years.

thats good to hear! thanks!