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X Drive in the snow
I was under the impression that X drive was going to act like a 4wd vehicle. Through the snow, to me all it does is make me feel that my car performs like a front wheel drive car. I'm a little under whelmed here.
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My only experience with xdrive in snow is from many mountain trips in our X5, with mud/ snow tires. Car was planted, had no slippage in blizzards. Much better than other 4wd i’ve owned.
My M550 with summer tires will never get to play in the snow, so cant say how g30 performs |
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A 2WD vehicle mounted with winter tires on the driving wheels will perform better than an AWD/4WD vehicle mounted with summer or all season tires. Again, the rubber compound on summer & all season tires begin to harden at aroun 45° F...so the colder it gets, the less traction they have. Stopping, turning and acceleration will all suffer (even with an AWD/4WD vehicle). Winter tire's rubber compound stays soft in ambient temps below 45° F...and their tread design with all the sipes and other design characteristics will enhance a cars ability to stop/turn/accelerate...and if it is AWD or 4WD...it will makes things even better. The images below were captured from a TireRack video on YouTube that compared summer/all seasons/winter tires on an ice skating ring...you can see the differences in performance. If you have AWD, winter tires will compliment the AWD capabilities by providing better traction. If the tires don't have traction...AWD or 4WD will suffer and not be much better than FWD or RWD. In fact, again, 2WD, FWD/RWD mounted with dedicated winter tires will perform better than AWD/4WD mounted with summer or all season tires. The image below shows the stopping distance on ice compafing summer/all season/winter tires: Turning @ 10 MPH...the winter tires were able to make the turn and stay within the cones that were set-up...the other two tires busted through the cones...thus would also slide into oncoming traffic or other lane: Pics below show acceleration times on ice comparing summer/all seasons/winter tires:
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Again, if you have dedicated winter tires...your AWD experience will be transformmative.
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I will agree to disagree with you that xDrive is "weak"...it performs excellent for me in the Great Lakes region especially when equipped with the proper tires for the season. Sorry that you're not getting the performance you expected.
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E46 330xi, permanant AWD on snow tires performed much better than G30 x-drive on snow tires.
Being permanent all wheel drive, having hill descent system makes E46 a better performer on snow. G30 does not have HDC (Hill Descent Control), which is useful on steep downhills... |
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I lived right off the banks of the Mississippi in Davenport, IA and drove an E60 xDrive with dedicated snows (it's very hilly right off the river). I could stop in the ice going downhill, I could get moving in deep snow going uphill. Piece of cake.
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xDrive is okay. I haven't had any problems and we have much steeper hills in WA than I did when living in CT or VA. However, winter tires are a must and most all modern AWD vehicles rely too much on wheel spin to get traction aids (ETC or LSD's) to kick in. I also suspect that the newer G30 M550i with the M Sport Rear Differential will perform slightly better than G30's with full open differential.
The biggest problem with our G30's is weight. It's your worst enemy in snow despite common thinking. Inertia is a bitch to overcome when you're trying to change direction (or velocity) in the slippery stuff. |
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Having had 10 BMW's with xDrive ... following 2 Audi's with quattro ... 3 Jeep Grand Cherokees with different versions of Jeep's multiple awd / 4 wd options ... and two XC 90's ... I can say with some confidence that there are only two things wrong with xDrive:
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Glad I moved to FL.
RWD and summer tires are all I will ever need.
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Guys I just want to post an update. Yesterday was my first ride on major snow. Roads were not plowed and I live where there is a lot of hills. I am blown away the difference between a snow that's a light dust vs full on 5-6 inches. The dusting as I posted kind of sucked for me. The unplowed snow though was a totally different experience. It was pretty close to my old 4x4. I barreled through the snow with no problems. my tires have about 20k highway miles on them. None the less great in fresh snow for me so far, not as good on dusting snow prob on ice. I'm just blown away how amazing she is on powder.
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