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      09-21-2019, 09:46 AM   #67
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P1-4 are very close ...*The best tire management* will win the race tomorrow !
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LEC HAM VET MAX,should be interesting at the first turn
LEC hits HAM, no damage to LEC but VET passes him. HAM walks away just fine (not wishing harm in a fellow human). VET wins and LEC second and I'm buying everyone here a drink 😂
Oh and VER will screw up the start 😅
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great lap from Leclerc again.. this guy is on fire.. tomorrow ll be a great race to watch.. Red Bulls ll come into play as well..



+ new floor..
And it completely transformed the car!!! Crazy
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LEC hits HAM, no damage to LEC but VET passes him. HAM walks away just fine (not wishing harm in a fellow human). VET wins and LEC second and I'm buying everyone here a drink 😂
Oh and VER will screw up the start 😅
HAM appears over eager and there were many words from him about the Monza situation so he could trip himself up in his haste but I think Max will be mindful of the start and I'm sure he will be on the podium.
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Oh and VER will screw up the start 😅
Here is why => https://f1i.com/news/352992-verstapp...ust-solve.html
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Max may try different finger grooves on the clutch paddle at the start like Merc and Ferrari do if it makes a difference.
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HAM appears over eager and there were many words from him about the Monza situation so he could trip himself up in his haste but I think Max will be mindful of the start and I'm sure he will be on the podium.
Yeah . Like I said earlier today , all will depend from the tire management .Because the first 4 are close.....Very close !
As we know , MAX is the best in saving his tires . And I'm thinking about the pitstop strategy as well...

Hope for Charles , that the Ferrari pit crew is awake for him ...

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Yeah . Like I said earlier today , all will depend from the tire management .Because the first 4 are close.....Very close !
As we know , MAX is the best in saving his tires . And I'm thinking about the pitstop strategy as well...

Hope for Charles , that the Ferrari pit crew is awake for him ...

If there is some question of readiness when Charles comes into the pit then he needs the language and volume of Kimi, Come on ! Move! in the excellent 10 point vid.
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Where the hell did all this downforce come from
If you're talking about Ferrari's additional downforce, they have an updated front wing with two new winglets mounted on the front nosecone. They also have a revised floor. They tested these two pieces back to back with the old spec in FP1 and decided to put run them on both cars from FP2 onwards.

Ferrari has such a straight line speed advantage that fortunately they can take the hit of the added drag when adding more downforce. Despite adding these new bits for downforce, they were still about three tenths faster than Mercedes and RedBull through sector one (which has a few long straights and high speed corners).
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Ricciardo could be in trouble and may start at the back of grid from his 8th position for exceeding the 120kW limit output of the MGU-K when his car was scrutinised.
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Ricciardo could be in trouble and may start at the back of grid from his 8th position for exceeding the 120kW limit output of the MGU-K when his car was scrutinised.
It's since been made official. He has been disqualified from the qualifying results.
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Ricciardo could be in trouble and may start at the back of grid from his 8th position for exceeding the 120kW limit output of the MGU-K when his car was scrutinised.
It should be noted that Renault did state their case to the stewards. They argued the benefit from the extra power was negligible and that the extra power came on Ricciardos second times lap in Q2, on which he did not improve his time.

If that really is the truth, then I wish he would have been able to keep his qualifying position. It seems the extra power didn't really have any positive effect on his qualifying results nor did it hinder any other competitors.
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It should be noted that Renault did state their case to the stewards. They argued the benefit from the extra power was negligible and that the extra power came on Ricciardos second times lap in Q2, on which he did not improve his time.

If that really is the truth, then I wish he would have been able to keep his qualifying position. It seems the extra power didn't really have any positive effect on his qualifying results nor did it hinder any other competitors.
Renault can put their case and it's probably true what they say about no extra gain achieved but as we have found stewards don't forgive for tech infringements in the slightest.In must not be beyond the permitted scale.
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Wow finally some major Ferrari improvements! This could be a good one...
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Wow finally some major Ferrari improvements! This could be a good one...
According Toto Wolff ...

From now on... The Ferrari package will be very strong on every circuit !
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hopefully merc can bring a nice final upgrade for those remaining races, curious to see how different the race pace will be tmw
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According Toto Wolff ...

From now on... The Ferrari package will be very strong on every circuit !
I recently read an article speculating that Ferrari's power advantage is down to "questionable" engineering. Some teams have supposedly sent an inquiry to the FIA but haven't received a response yet. It was suggested that they may be burning more oil than the permitted amount or possibly deploying more energy than the allowed (regarding the latter, this wouldn't be the first time Ferrari have been accused of it).
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I recently read an article speculating that Ferrari's power advantage is down to "questionable" engineering. Some teams have supposedly sent an inquiry to the FIA but haven't received a response yet. It was suggested that they may be burning more oil than the permitted amount or possibly deploying more energy than the allowed (regarding the latter, this wouldn't be the first time Ferrari have been accused of it).
That would have been at the time of the twin battery saga? but nothing came of it,the scale was at the permitted level.As far as the oil burning goes before the start lots of smoke was seen exhuming from the cars but again there was no issue and other teams just had the 'Get Ferrari' syndrome.
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there is/was a talk on grapefruit smell or strawberry smell topic is on going in the pit lane coming from Ferrari garage..been few months now..

https://www.wheels24.co.za/FormulaOn...marko-20190411 ..
https://www.wheels24.co.za/FormulaOn...orner-20190408 ..
https://www.express.co.uk/sport/f1-a...-Steiner-Marko ..
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there is/was a talk on grapefruit smell or strawberry smell topic is on going in the pit lane coming from Ferrari garage..been few months now..

https://www.wheels24.co.za/FormulaOn...marko-20190411 ..
https://www.wheels24.co.za/FormulaOn...orner-20190408 ..
https://www.express.co.uk/sport/f1-a...-Steiner-Marko ..
the real question is how can one of them be confusing grapefruit smell with strawberry?
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I recently read an article speculating that Ferrari's power advantage is down to "questionable" engineering. Some teams have supposedly sent an inquiry to the FIA but haven't received a response yet. It was suggested that they may be burning more oil than the permitted amount or possibly deploying more energy than the allowed (regarding the latter, this wouldn't be the first time Ferrari have been accused of it).
That would have been at the time of the twin battery saga? but nothing came of it,the scale was at the permitted level.As far as the oil burning goes before the start lots of smoke was seen exhuming from the cars but again there was no issue and other teams just had the 'Get Ferrari' syndrome.
I don't think the Ferrari smokes on start up anymore though. Their car had a tendency to smoke a bit back before the FIA imposed limits on how much oil can be burned. If there is any merit to the rumors, I'd guess that Ferrari revisited the oil burning tactic for this year after initially confirming to the regulations (which went into effect around the Italian GP back in 2017 IIRC).
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there is/was a talk on grapefruit smell or strawberry smell topic is on going in the pit lane coming from Ferrari garage..been few months now..

https://www.wheels24.co.za/FormulaOn...marko-20190411 ..
https://www.wheels24.co.za/FormulaOn...orner-20190408 ..
https://www.express.co.uk/sport/f1-a...-Steiner-Marko ..
I remember reading about that. The thing to remember (and is sometimes omitted in those articles) is that each team works with their own partners to create a specific blend of gas that will maximize power from their engine.

Normally each engine supplier would recommend what gas blend is optimized for their engine to make the most power but teams don't always have the same sponsor agreements to allow them to do that. Back when RedBull was running Renault engines, they were using their own gas blend instead of what Renault recommended due to having different gas/oil sponsors. RedBull would complain about the lack of power and Renault would point the finger to them not using the right blend (among other excuses for not being up to par with the Ferrari and Mercedes engines).
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