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      08-31-2015, 12:01 PM   #1
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Question Cars that are Investments

For this weeks fun topic I thought it would be cool to discuss cars that can be bought with the least depreciation or even as an investment for the future.

When we look at cars like the E30 M3 with limited production that depreciated and the went up in value due to some key attributes we can see that buying one of these cars back then would have been a pretty good investment if you liked driving it, holding it, and then reselling it today.

Also there is the case of the 1M which was made in limited production and was the first Turbo M car ever. While the value is high currently and will surely depreciate over time and then may even go back up in value simular to the E30 M3.

I have been considering the E9x M3 for my next car as I feel like the one and only V8 M3 will go down in history as something special.

So my question here is:
In your opinion what are, or will be some excellent cars that you can buy now which will hold their value and possibly appreciate over time.
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For this weeks fun topic I thought it would be cool to discuss cars that can be bought with the least depreciation or even as an investment for the future.

When we look at cars like the E30 M3 with limited production that depreciated and the went up in value due to some key attributes we can see that buying one of these cars back then would have been a pretty good investment if you liked driving it, holding it, and then reselling it today.

Also there is the case of the 1M which was made in limited production and was the first Turbo M car ever. While the value is high currently and will surely depreciate over time and then may even go back up in value simular to the E30 M3.

I have been considering the E9x M3 for my next car as I feel like the one and only V8 M3 will go down in history as something special.

So my question here is:
In your opinion what are, or will be some excellent cars that you can buy now which will hold their value and possibly appreciate over time.
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      08-31-2015, 12:21 PM   #3
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e9x m3 ...now very cheap
e61 M5 (the touring) ...now very cheap

Alfa gt 3.2 ....last busso

Ferrari f355 ....now cheap and last of 'the old ferraris'

Lamborghini Murcialago maybe ....now cheap and last with the bizzarrini engine
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Acura NSX
Toyota Supra
RX-7

Are just a few. There are so many performance cars from the 90s that are highly sought out right now.
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      08-31-2015, 01:15 PM   #5
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Cayman GT4...at least in the short term. With the lengthy wait, and dealers asking over MSRP for ones on the floor, you could probably buy one (if you had an allocation), drive it for a while, and then sell it for more.
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      08-31-2015, 01:50 PM   #7
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any air cooled 911
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i swear i just read this same thread a few days ago in the "General Automotive (non-BMW) Talk + Photos/Videos" forum.

it was several pages long.

maybe i'm going crazy; too lazy to check.
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i couldn't resist searching:
http://f10.5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1134436

i was wrong... it's only 3 pages long.
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i couldn't resist searching:
http://f10.5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1134436

i was wrong... it's only 3 pages long.
Collectible vs investment value

almost the same
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Acura NSX
Toyota Supra
RX-7

Are just a few. There are so many performance cars from the 90s that are highly sought out right now.
The problem with these is you need to find an extremely low mileage, stock car to have any hope of making money on it in the long run. Everyone and there mothers thinks these are the next big collectors cars, which makes it kind of hard to actually make any money on them unless you find some old lady who has no idea what she's got stashed in the garage.I think if you buy one you probably wont lose money on them, but you also won't be able to drive them enough to justify owning a 20 year old Honda/Toyota over something something like an older 911 or a Ferrari 308 GTS

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Cars are poor investments.....period.
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Cars are poor investments.....period.
Guy buys 1M for 49k, drives 2 years 40k miles. Sells car for 47k.

Good investment....???
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Cars are poor investments.....period.
Guy buys 1M for 49k, drives 2 years 40k miles. Sells car for 47k.

Good investment....???
Still lost money......and that's not including insurance/operating costs/gas.....that's more like driving a nice car for not a lot of money.
In sure if you buy some random nice collector car and never drive it and it sits then you sell for more with no repairs that would constitute and"investment"if you turned a profit after taxes and time burned and all the above.
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Cars are investments, a lot of people can buy for example a Ferrari or Lambo but they don't consuder the costs of driving one, huge insurance and maintenance costs. People don't realise how much is being charged for an oil change on these cars not even mentioning the costs for replacing the gearbox very frequently.
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A Delorean maybe. There is one that has been parked for months at the same location that I pass by everyday going to work and back. Makes me want it.
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Ferrari f355 ....now cheap and last of 'the old ferraris'
Ah yes...the last of the "that'll be $5000 to pull the motor to change a belt" Ferrari's. Exhaust manifold, brass valve guides, etc...
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As said above, cars are generally bad investments (maybe with exception of the ultra high end collectibles) . Ending up with a car that you sell for more than you paid for it also doesn't make it a good investment. Figure in gas, insurance, storage, maintenance, repair, registration then compare it to any decent mix in stock/bond funds that should double in value every 10 years with no ownership costs.

I am happy with my weekend car because it hasn't lost a lot of value in the 3 years I have owned it, no repairs and minimal maintenance but figuring in insurance and what I would have had if I put it in a reasonable investment it is still a big loser when it comes to an investment.
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Once you factor in maintenance, gas, insurance, registration (even non-op), then you can determine whether it was a good investment.
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Ah yes...the last of the "that'll be $5000 to pull the motor to change a belt" Ferrari's. Exhaust manifold, brass valve guides, etc...
That's why it'll be worth something....
Impossible to live with

But the 360's also still have exhaust manifold problems.
I think every old ferrari will have to cope with that. Italian parts and materials are rubbish, that is a fact.

But indeed with the 360 you can change the belts from within the interior I think...
Takes a bit away from the ferrari charm.... affording a ferrari is not the buying but the maintenance


Other cars that might go op in value:

997 gt3: last manual, last 'mezger' (although from the 'mezger series 'Hans Mezger says that he only made 1 engine....)

996/997 turbo: now cheap very and still with mezger engine.

And ofcourse Lancia delta integrale and such cars (escort cosworth etc). For those who now still can afford one as they have gotten expensive already (A bit like the 1M...but then with real race pedigree... )
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