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      09-05-2019, 10:05 PM   #1101
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      09-06-2019, 07:46 AM   #1102
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Buddy of mine has owned it for a little while. Couple of things they didn't like at the shop...


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Didnít know the vents were fake. Thatís cheesy especially in this day.
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@ 2.05 if this was built as a drivers car it would feature a manual transmission.
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@ 2.05 if this was built as a drivers car it would feature a manual transmission.
Thats some air tight logic there bud
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Buddy of mine has owned it for a little while. Couple of things they didn't like at the shop...


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Didnít know the vents were fake. Thatís cheesy especially in this day.
Its weird that they did this. They claim its so the aftermarket can remove them?
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Didnít know the vents were fake. Thatís cheesy especially in this day.
My guess is future models will have them uncapped like the GT4 car. As for the door one, that piece is removable to allow easier wide body models (you only need to replace the door vent instead of the entire door to blend into the quarter panel) like the GR racing concept shown at geneva 2018
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      09-06-2019, 11:34 AM   #1108
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On top of my head the Honda CTR and Audi R8 also have a number of fake vents. I'm sure there are a bunch more to list if I had time to look it up.
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On top of my head the Honda CTR and Audi R8 also have a number of fake vents. I'm sure there are a bunch more to list if I had time to look it up.
Doesn't make it ok though
Yes all fake vents needs to go
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Doesn't make it ok though
Yes all fake vents needs to go
What did you do with the fake vents on your F80?
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Doesn't make it ok though
Yes all fake vents needs to go
I never said it was, I was trying to point out the double standards of some.
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What did you do with the fake vents on your F80?
I wasn't aware of any fake vents
Honest questions: can you point them out
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Thats some air tight logic there bud
An auto is perfect for daily driving but for the full backroad driving experience, you can't beat three pedals and a gearstick. I considered an auto 135i purely because manuals were so rare, but I knew deep down that I would regret it sooner or later. It's a bugger in stop-start traffic, but that was a compromise I was prepared to make. Don't get me wrong, I'm not anti-auto, just pro-manual.
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I wasn't aware of any fake vents
Honest questions: can you point them out
There aren't any.
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I got to see it up and close at a cars & coffee in Orange County. Smells like a BMW inside lol.

I don't put any value into Youtube car "reviews" since they never say anything negative. Car & Driver, Motortrend, Road & Track, etc. are still the best reviews. They aren't a bunch of chumps just excited a company lent them a car for a day.
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An auto is perfect for daily driving but for the full backroad driving experience, you can't beat three pedals and a gearstick. I considered an auto 135i purely because manuals were so rare, but I knew deep down that I would regret it sooner or later. It's a bugger in stop-start traffic, but that was a compromise I was prepared to make. Don't get me wrong, I'm not anti-auto, just pro-manual.
Yeah a manual would make it more of a driverís car but that doesnít mean it isnít a driverís car already. Assigning specific rules to the driverís car or not a driverís car binary means that some could consider the 718 gt4 not a driverís car because it has power steering. In todayís terms this would be called gatekeeping
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Ideally a driver's car, I think, would have a manual...that's all.
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Ideally a driver's car, I think, would have a manual...that's all.
That's all? TIL Sentras are driver's cars now
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Buddy of mine has owned it for a little while. Couple of things they didn't like at the shop...


I think most of his complaints are warranted, but...

#4: The fuel tank capacity isn't that far off from others.

4C: 10.5 gal
Zupra: 13.7 gal
Cayman: 14.2 gal
TT: 14.5 gal
SLC: 15.9 gal

#5: It's the same on Toyotas.

#10: It's a clam hood.. I have seen the same amount of gaps on past Z4s and Vipers.
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I never said it was, I was trying to point out the double standards of some.
Whoís double standards would that be?
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I think most of his complaints are warranted, but...

#4: The fuel tank capacity isn't that far off from others.

4C: 10.5 gal
Zupra: 13.7 gal
Cayman: 14.2 gal
TT: 14.5 gal
SLC: 15.9 gal

#5: It's the same on Toyotas.

#10: It's a clam hood.. I have seen the same amount of gaps on past Z4s and Vipers.
The one complaining about no specific phone mount was pretty lame. I honestly expected the next complaint to be something like, "The largest can of Monster doesn't fit in the cup holder" or something equally lame.

I also don't get the complaint on the ZF vs DCT. The ZF shifts just as quickly, so who cares what type of auto it is? I don't care if it's literal hamsters pulling strings, I care about the end result.
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