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      07-04-2020, 06:51 PM   #67
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I am so confused, if thats the 2 series what is this. Bmw has wildly different versions for gran coupe and regular coupe? Since when and why? Or is bmw just going to redesign a car that is not even out yet?
I swear BMW should have just replaced the 1-series sedan with this and left it at that, an incredibly stupid choice on BMW's part. Calling it a 2-series is confusing enough and having two different M235i's makes things even worse. The car doesn't even look like a gran coupe, there is nothing coupe like to the design outside of frameless windows. Years ago BMW said they were going to make 2-doors even series and 4-doors odd series, and then they pull the GC bs. 🤦
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Agree number game is getting ridiculous. Apparently Mercedes increased their numbers because owners that were leasing didn't like that the numbers on the back of their cars were going down as turbocharging became widely adopted. Back in the day I got a F10 535i loaner and someone asked me how I liked the 3.5L V6 in the car I had so much explaining to do for them.
The v6 got me rolling. But yeah, when the average consumer thinks bigger is better, they think it's better off to help people justify their purchase.
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I have never seen a BMW with an uglier face. My goodness. Looks like a Chinese knockoff of a Corolla.
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Scott26 has said the next 2er is going to have the bigger/longer grilles, but not as extreme as the new 4er. I'm hoping it will be like the 3.0 CSL Homage Concept.

Please BMW... C'mon! I tried to make it a bit more production-like. And made it M-ified. And yes, I know it won't look like this, unfortunately. Edit- and oh, crap... I forgot the M2 badge on the grill.
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I hope they don't stick with that front end, at least its still going be RWD.
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I have never seen a BMW with an uglier face. My goodness. Looks like a Chinese knockoff of a Corolla.
Have you seen the new 4 series?
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Not to mention incredibly long. Growing about 7+ inches to almost 190 inches - same size as an E-Class Coupe! I have a feeling they will make the new 2er close to the size of the outgoing 4er.
if they make it as big as the outgoing 4er, they will lose a significant number of us who appreciate the just right size of the 2 series.

I chose the m2 over the m4 largely due to the size of the m2 (and all that comes with the more compact dimensions)
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It will be bigger and heavier than the out going 2.
Seems like a trend. The new 4 series coupe is also heavier.
Not to mention incredibly long. Growing about 7+ inches to almost 190 inches - same size as an E-Class Coupe! I have a feeling they will make the new 2er close to the size of the outgoing 4er.
Actually just a little less than the outgoing 4 is a nice size.

For that's Goldilocks, current 4 is too long, current 2 just a little stubby at some angles (I'm not a hater put the pitch forks down had a 235i and M2)
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Man... I thought bmws couldn't get uglier than the new 4er, but at least the new 4er is "distinctive"! The new 2er looks ugly and downright cheap... hopefully it'll still be fun to drive, and there's always the LCI to look forward to!
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Scott26 has said the next 2er is going to have the bigger/longer grilles, but not as extreme as the new 4er. I'm hoping it will be like the 3.0 CSL Homage Concept.

Omg, that will be truly amazing!
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I wonder how big and heavy this will be. Now that the 4-series coupe is close to 190 inches long (same length as an E-Coupe) they will likely make the 2er even bigger and heavier.
More like a "3", somehow thinking BMW won't mess this model up.
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Interesting to see mercedes move to go 4 cylinder hybrid with the next gen C63 AMG. I think BMW inevitably will have to follow... Also very interested in Mercedes newly introduced electric turbo, that reduces lag. I would love to see BMW introduce a newly developed mild hybrid 4 cylinder engine for next gen M2, as long as It looks and sounds anything like the DTM, P48 engine with a plus 7K RPM redline. A carbon fiber roof and the new optional carbon bucket seats should bring overall weight down significantly. But hey, who am I...
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I am so confused, if thats the 2 series what is this. Bmw has wildly different versions for gran coupe and regular coupe? Since when and why? Or is bmw just going to redesign a car that is not even out yet?
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I swear BMW should have just replaced the 1-series sedan with this and left it at that, an incredibly stupid choice on BMW's part. Calling it a 2-series is confusing enough and having two different M235i's makes things even worse. The car doesn't even look like a gran coupe, there is nothing coupe like to the design outside of frameless windows. Years ago BMW said they were going to make 2-doors even series and 4-doors odd series, and then they pull the GC bs. 🤦
Thank you jstein55 for the direct answer. It saved me from having to research the difference.

Anyone else hoping that the new 2 series would have the size and performance of this (with spec bumps and updated bits, as appropriate)...



and the styling cues from this...

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My mind cannot gather enough words to express how ridiculously bad those taillights look like!
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I just zoomed in on them! In tiny letters it says "if found, return to Honda."

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Notwithstanding that this doesn't look like any Honda at all, why is it necessary or relevant to talk trash of another manufacturer in a thread about the G42?
If you look at the 3D design of the tail light you will notice a remarkable amount of "over styling" and geometry that is very reminiscent to me of the "Gundam" style of the Honda Civic. While I appreciate the style I certainly don't want it on my car. I honestly wasn't "talking shit" on Honda.
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Ugly hood line AGAIN!

Bye bye double headlamps

Let’s see what happens with the Hofmeister kink...

Door handles seem to be i4 alike (but not integrated with the belt character line

Top of the hood seems too high.
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